6.4L Power Stroke Diesel Engine fitted to 2008 - 2010 F250, F350 and F450 pickup trucks and F350 + Cab Chassis

vaccum pump question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-19-2011, 12:12 PM
PA-Mark's Avatar
PA-Mark
PA-Mark is offline
Posting Guru

Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mt. Holly Springs, PA
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
vaccum pump question

Hi to all, got a noob question here. I just bought a 2008 f250 6.4 Diesel last month. It needs a thermostat. Im pretty sure it actually dosnt have one in it at all but this is another story. So it goes in tomorow to have one put in and coolant service done. Anyway the point of all this is while the service tech was looking around under the hood he noticed what he called a vaccume pump unplugged. Its an electric pump mounted on the left fender in front of the master cylinder, after plugging it in it started running and then he noticed an additional length of vaccume hose (About 8" long) attached with a tee adapter and a missing hose from that tee, we could not find the missing hose. He said he has never seen this modified this way and could not speculate to why it was done. i removed the extra length and connected the original hose to the pump and left the electric plug installed. The tech said the pump should stop running eventually and only turn on when it was needed. When i got home from there i left the ENG run and popped the hood, the pump was still running, and after about 5 min it still hasnt stopped, so i turned off the ignition. Can anyone tell me more about what this pump is, and how its supposed to operate, and what the modification could have been, and what leaving it unplugged would do to the truck? It has no trouble codes or loss of obvious performance so there is no help there. Thanks in advance, Mark
 
  #2  
Old 09-19-2011, 01:07 PM
senix's Avatar
senix
senix is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 36,555
Received 1,407 Likes on 1,003 Posts
Would be used to operate the front hubs if you have ESOF. Shift on the fly.

If you have the switch inside to put it in 4x4 then the vacumn pump operates and turns the hubs to lock the front end in.

So look at that and also look at your hubs. Do you have aftermarket hubs up front?
 
  #3  
Old 09-19-2011, 01:27 PM
PA-Mark's Avatar
PA-Mark
PA-Mark is offline
Posting Guru

Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mt. Holly Springs, PA
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
original hubs

I have original hubs, They are like all the others I have seen on same model trucks. They say Lock the 1/4 turn away Auto, they are currently in auto btw. Thank you for the answer, but can you speculate to why it was modified with another hose spliced in to it? and also why does the pump continually run? If I had to venture a guess I would guess checking for a cracked or broken vaccum line from the pump down to the hubs, or maybe the 4x4 switch is shorted asking the hubs to lock, which may make sence as to why it was left unpluged by the previous owner, Thanx, Mark
 
  #4  
Old 09-19-2011, 01:41 PM
senix's Avatar
senix
senix is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 36,555
Received 1,407 Likes on 1,003 Posts
I would suppose it does not work so he unplugged it and then just manually operated the hubs.
 
  #5  
Old 09-19-2011, 01:59 PM
PA-Mark's Avatar
PA-Mark
PA-Mark is offline
Posting Guru

Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mt. Holly Springs, PA
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ok if something didnt work why bother disconecting? If something worked when not requested (without turning the switch) then i can see disconecting. My pump runs continuously when the switch is in 2H
Now as a follow up question, in a functioning system, will this pump continualy run when the switch is turned to 4H/4L? Or will it build up vaccum then cut off and only turn back on if vaccum is lost.
Now another follow up, Does anyone have a speculation as to why it was modified with a tee for another vaccum line. like i stated in the org post, i cant find a loose vaccum line to trace back to a mod.
 
  #6  
Old 09-19-2011, 03:55 PM
mmenzies's Avatar
mmenzies
mmenzies is offline
Mountain Pass
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This should work both the hubs and the heater therefore the tee. And yes when it draws a vacuum it should shut itself off.

Mark
 
  #7  
Old 09-19-2011, 05:05 PM
PA-Mark's Avatar
PA-Mark
PA-Mark is offline
Posting Guru

Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mt. Holly Springs, PA
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ok thanks, so now i need to look for the missing vaccume hose before PA winter sets in. Thanks for the help
 
  #8  
Old 09-19-2011, 07:09 PM
vloney's Avatar
vloney
vloney is offline
Postmaster

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: waynesville, mo.
Posts: 3,201
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by PA-Mark
ok thanks, so now i need to look for the missing vaccume hose before PA winter sets in. Thanks for the help
Yep, because you've probably only have defrost (the tee is for one going to the 4x4 solenoid, one going to the HVAC).
 
  #9  
Old 09-19-2011, 10:51 PM
PA-Mark's Avatar
PA-Mark
PA-Mark is offline
Posting Guru

Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mt. Holly Springs, PA
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi all, thanks for the help, but.... I unplugged it (electric plug, and vac hose) and the heater and ac work normally, when i switch the **** between deff, deff/floor, floor, panel/floor, and dash vents, they all change normally. Now its all normal except for the heat temp, which is not hot, but thats part of the can of worms that got me to the vac pump to begin with. Im taking it to the shop tomorow morning to get the thermostat replaced so i will drive the tech nuts with all these questions and see what it ends up as, thanx, Mark
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
AnthraXaXis
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
2
01-26-2013 09:28 PM
MIKE1646
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
5
11-26-2010 09:05 AM
kent's f-350
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
11-23-2008 10:43 AM
Flame Out
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
5
01-23-2007 09:12 PM
Finally
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
04-10-2005 09:11 PM



Quick Reply: vaccum pump question



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:21 AM.