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Old 11-12-2014, 02:35 PM
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:24 PM
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Power window and radio inop?

It is the accessory Delay Relay in the instrument cluster losing power due to a bad/cold soldier joint. This should have been a recall (my opinion), thousands of vehicles involved.

The esaiest/10 minute fix is to change the cluster. This also changes your milage to that of the cluster. I have had many superdutys. I have three bad clusters on the shelf and one good one with 178,000 on it.

Pull the radio, the dash bezel pops off, 4 screws on the cluster, unplug, repeat in reverse.
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:59 PM
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It is the accessory Delay Relay in the instrument cluster losing power due to a bad/cold soldier joint. This should have been a recall (my opinion), thousands of vehicles involved.

The esaiest/10 minute fix is to change the cluster. This also changes your milage to that of the cluster. I have had many superdutys. I have three bad clusters on the shelf and one good one with 178,000 on it.

Pull the radio, the dash bezel pops off, 4 screws on the cluster, unplug, repeat in reverse.

I thought in the 06 the relay was under steering column middle bottom row. This is the one that clicks when gauges etc etc drop. I am wondering what sends a signal to this relay to turn off? Some have replaced the cluster and not had their problem fixed. Im considering running a power to this relay through one of my upfitter switches so I can switch it on when it goes off.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:25 PM
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Windows, radio, reading & glove box lights inop

Sorry, I stand corrected. I was reading and commententing on several posts. I missed the fact that you were dealing with a 2006. My previous post is 100% correct for 1999-2004. I have not had the experience with later years. Did not mean to mislead.
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:57 AM
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Had this same window / radio issue on my 2003 limited. Disconnected plug on rear of dash instrument cluster, waited 2 minutes and plugged back in. Everything worked fine after that.
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:00 PM
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Radio and lights not working.

Remove relays and use dialectric grease on pins of relays.DC volts are sensitive to resistence.some of the metals they use for the pins and sockets are not the same type and causes chemical reaction.I even did all the fuses.
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I am new here and I dont know where to start. So here goes: on my 04 450 the wiring harness for the radio I have a constant hot and a switch hot. Well the switch hot is not hot. Checked the fuse and it dosent have power on it with the circurt tester i have it showes that the switch wire is ground when you turn on the switch. Cant afford to take it to local dealer ship here. Thank for any help.
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I am new here and I dont know where to start. So here goes my 04 450 the wiring harness for the radio I have a constant hot and a switch hot. Well the switch hot is not hot. Checked the fuse and it dosent have power on it with the circurt tester i have it showes that the switch wire is ground when you turn on the switch. Cant afford to take it to local dealer ship here. Thank for any help.
That is odd. Previous owner may have messed something up.

If you want to get your radio going, you could find a different switched hot wire (cigarette lighter for example) and splice into that.

Cut the switched hot wire on the radio harness. Take the end going to the radio and connect that to the cigarette lighter switched hot. Don't connect to end going into the dash or you will fry something out.

You will put a bit more load on the cigarette lighter circuit but it will get you going.
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I have had this problem for years. I've pulled and reset connectors, replaced relays, swapped fuses, beat on the dash, and pulled the instrument cluster to get to the Battery Saver Relay (the problem). The Battery Saver Relay, (part of the instrument cluster) continues to fail intermittently in supplying power to the Accessory Delay Relay (in the fuse panel below the steering wheel). I finally ran an emergency bypass circuit to supply power to the ADR through a switch. I don't mind losing radio function but I have to be able to open and close the windows. I installed a fuse tap to the rear power outlet fuse and ran a wire to a switch that I installed in the panel below the headlight switch. This switch has a red LED that reminds me that I am in bypass mode. From the switch I ran a wire to the ADR pin 87. I pulled the cover off of the relay and made a small hole just large enough to pass the wire inside and soldered the wire to the base of pin 87. Snapped the cover back in place and zip tied the wires. Works great. I leave the switch "OFF" and let the normal system work, but if I need to operate the windows and the system is in failure mode, I turn "ON" the switch, operate the windows and turn the switch back "OFF". I would have posted pictures but I haven't figured out how to do that yet. :-drink
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My truck, 2000 F350 7.3 deisel, is doing some similsr things. I have replaced the ignition switch and the accessory switch. The windows will work with the door oopen. This last time I messed with it, I took the GEM outcleaned all connections and since it seemd like a door problem I sprayd wd40 on all the lock areas. Now the drivers window went down and when I tried to raise it the GEM module makes a funny pulsating noise and the interior light flicker.
I think I need to replace the module.
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ick same issue with my 02 lariet. will try the tricks and see what happens. thanks all
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I checked on the cost for a GEM module---about 650.00 dollars. I took my truck to a good NAPA dealer close by. He charged me 2 hours of diagnostic time and found out that it was a ground that needed to be cleaned. He didn't tell me where, but I assume under the dash somewhere. I would look for any and all grounds.
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Can you remove the cluster and still drive the vehicle "blind"? While the cluster is out for repair. Does this affect the odometer or is it just an indication so it will advance as driven? Thanks
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