Top 5 Reasons the F-Series is Better than the Tundra
#16
09-20-2011, 05:26 PM
Power adjustable pedals are not available on Tundra's, only a telescopic wheel is offered.
What type of frame does a Super Duty have? C channel.
The Tundra frame is boxed up to the front U-joint, then two widths of C channel are used from there on.
F150 frame is fully boxed, as is the Nissan Titan.
AFAIK, Super Duty's are not made in Mexico...they were at one time, but not now.
Ford has had assembly and parts plants in Hermosillo Mexico since the late 1980's. The first vehicle assembled there was the 1989 Mercury Tracer.
US Gov't (federal law): The country of origin must be listed on all goods sold in the US. When parts customers noticed Hecho en Mexico on Ford parts packaging (this began circa 1990), they were not pleased.
Ford, GM, ChryCo (now owned by FIAT = "Fix it again Tony!") now have assembly and parts plants in China. Just wait till peeps see parts packaging with a Chinese label on it. I can guess what the reaction will be, but...
Most peeps are prolly unaware that most parts sold by chain autoparts stores and the repro parts for older Ford vehicles (prolly GM & ChryCo as well)...are made in China.
The first digit of the VIN...when decoded...gives the country of origin: 1 = USA, 2 = Canada, 3 & 5 = Mexico. Dunno about 4 or any numbers past 5.
The Fusion is assembled in Mexico, Tundra in San Antonio TX, F150 in Dearborn, Titan in Canton MS. Dunno about Rams & the GM "twins."
The 'North American' parts content is listed on the window sticker....this includes US & Canada, but AFAIK, not Mexico.
What type of frame does a Super Duty have? C channel.
The Tundra frame is boxed up to the front U-joint, then two widths of C channel are used from there on.
F150 frame is fully boxed, as is the Nissan Titan.
AFAIK, Super Duty's are not made in Mexico...they were at one time, but not now.
Ford has had assembly and parts plants in Hermosillo Mexico since the late 1980's. The first vehicle assembled there was the 1989 Mercury Tracer.
US Gov't (federal law): The country of origin must be listed on all goods sold in the US. When parts customers noticed Hecho en Mexico on Ford parts packaging (this began circa 1990), they were not pleased.
Ford, GM, ChryCo (now owned by FIAT = "Fix it again Tony!") now have assembly and parts plants in China. Just wait till peeps see parts packaging with a Chinese label on it. I can guess what the reaction will be, but...
Most peeps are prolly unaware that most parts sold by chain autoparts stores and the repro parts for older Ford vehicles (prolly GM & ChryCo as well)...are made in China.
The first digit of the VIN...when decoded...gives the country of origin: 1 = USA, 2 = Canada, 3 & 5 = Mexico. Dunno about 4 or any numbers past 5.
The Fusion is assembled in Mexico, Tundra in San Antonio TX, F150 in Dearborn, Titan in Canton MS. Dunno about Rams & the GM "twins."
The 'North American' parts content is listed on the window sticker....this includes US & Canada, but AFAIK, not Mexico.
The F-150's are 60% North American parts, 15% Mexican with with engine / trans originating in the USA.
#19
09-20-2011, 09:45 PM
#20
10-06-2011, 03:00 PM
I'll give you a reason why the F150 is better than the Tundra. My last F150 was a 2004 SCrew and even though the 5.4 motor was a dog, the truck never let me down. I drove that for 223,000 miles. The Tundra was my next truck. I bought a 2008 TRD Extended cab with the 5.7 motor. Motor and transmission were flawless but the front differential and front axle shafts had to be replaced under warranty at 58000 miles. Drove for another 80,000 miles and the front diff went again! $3000 to replace everything and I said no way. Off to my local Ford dealership this past Saturday and bought a 2011 F150 SCrew with the 5.0 motor. Very nice truck and happy to be back in a Ford again. Won't go back to Toyota ever. I think this 2011 is bigger in the back than the 2004 and wow, what a ride it has. Love the SYNC as well. Being an on the road sales guy, having the hands free for the phone is just awesome. GLAD TO BE BACK WITH FORD AND MY NEW F150!
#21
10-11-2011, 05:57 PM
I agree that the F150 is better than the Tundra, and I am a F150 owner. However, I still can't get past the Chevy/Ford comparison I saw on YouTube. That freakin' Chevy handed the Super Duty its head. I mean it was ugly, and I don't mean in the looks department.
Chevrolet Silverado vs. Ford SuperDuty and Ram HD - YouTube
Chevrolet Silverado vs. Ford SuperDuty and Ram HD - YouTube
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11-01-2011, 10:12 AM
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One thing I have always brought up when people start chest pounding their Tundras or Titans is look around and see what 1/2 ton trucks are in most commercial fleets?
I see mostly Ford with a large helping of Chevy and some Dodge but very rarely do I see Tundras or Titans in commercial service beyond a Enterprise or Budget rent a wreck store.
I see mostly Ford with a large helping of Chevy and some Dodge but very rarely do I see Tundras or Titans in commercial service beyond a Enterprise or Budget rent a wreck store.
#24
11-01-2011, 03:37 PM
#25
11-01-2011, 03:43 PM
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0-60's and 1/4 miles times may not be important in real world driving but you would be suprised how many people can be swayed by feeling like their vehicle is just a little bit faster than the compatition's.
#27
11-02-2011, 05:35 AM
No, I’m really not surprised how gullible some people are. That's what the manufacturer’s depend on.
#29
11-02-2011, 06:03 AM
Fox NFL pays Howie 1.8 million per year and GM pays Howie another 1.2 million for his series of commercials for Chevrolet. What is howie long's salary
#30
11-02-2011, 07:15 PM
C Channel frame is one thing, but the Tundra's has too much flex to it. I've worked on many Tundra pickups at work and the build quality is not robust. I will say the 5.7 I Force has lots of power but it takes more than that to make a good truck. The F150 is built much stronger with welded front end super structures and boron steel radiator support sections on the '04 on up trucks and very strong frames. The cabs are very strong as well. And flex is important in a truck's frame and the F150 has just enough without too much shake and wiggle like a Tundra.