14, just bought my first truck. 87 f250, 460 4 speed. i need a winch just to get out of my driveway in the winter. I spent 4 hours looking for just a push bumper that would support a winch. couldnt find one. its not that i couldnt find a bar or bumper, i couldnt find one for my truck. if anybody has a pipe bumper or something like that. i dont know if mine would stand up to it

 

Have you looked at places like ranch hand or rampage bumpers? Might also be worth while to see what your local welding shop can slap together for you. An old oxy bottle, some other scrap and you're mostly there.

 

i guess it would bbe the same idea for a rear bumper?

 

Yeah, pretty much. You might want to consider shacklel mounts or a hitch receiver on the rear, fronts too.

 

Look around for some old Government trucks. Lots of trucks that year had winch bumpers on them. Any army surplus dealers in your area?

 

Yeah i know where there might be a few, i know where at least one is down in kentucky by my family