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Old 08-29-2011, 02:08 AM
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5.0 Coyote

Has anyone used the new coyote 5.0 yet? Would you recommend it.
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Subscribing because I too am interested. Was going to go the 5.4 Lightning route, but a new Coyote fully dressed w/ a harness for less than 8k is awfully tempting. Another $500-1500 for a 4r70 and you have a brand new 380 HP drivetrain for about the same price Lightning running gear from a salvage costs
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A 4 legged scavenger related to a wolf, or Ford's name for their new OHC 5.0L engine used in Mustang's, 2011/ F150's (see below).
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I too wondered about this will it fit inside the inner fenders or will there have too be serious cutting?
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You have any pictures of this Coyote?? never hear of it or seen them.

Speaking of Coyotes.


Last Winter I was snowmobiling with a friend and while is was hauling @ss up the 10 miles of trail to the open country a coyote came out of the woods right along side me ( I didn't slow down thinking he would go the other way ) and the next thing I knew he took a hard right and cut right in front of me, Needless to say I Hit him hard. turns out he only had 3 feet, his 4th leg was just a stub above the paw. (assumed he probably lost it in a trap)
I kinda felt bad about it, as it wasn't on purpose that I hit him...
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If you do manage to get it in..
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5.0 L Coyote
5.0 L 4-valve Ti-VCT DOHC V8 installed in a 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302
The 5.0 L (4951 cc, 302 cid)[9] "Coyote" V8 is the latest evolution of the Modular engine.[10] It shares the 4.6 L's 100 mm (3.937 in) bore spacing and 227 mm (8.937 in) deck height,[11] while bore diameter and stroke have increased to 92.2mm (3.629 in) and 92.7mm (3.649 in), respectively. The engine also retains the 4.6 L's 150.7 mm (5.933 in) connecting rod length, which produces a 1.62:1 rod to stroke ratio.[12] The firing order has been changed from that shared by all previous Modular V8s (1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8) to that of the Ford Flathead V8 (1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2).[12] Compression ratio is 11.0:1, and despite having typical port fuel injection (as opposed to direct injection) the engine can still be run on 87 octane gasoline.

The Coyote features a revised aluminum engine block with improved strength and crank-case ventilation, and all new 4V DOHC cylinder heads that have shifted the camshafts outboard, which allowed for a compact roller finger follower setup and improved (raised) intake port geometry. The result is an intake port that outflows the Ford GT intake port by 4 percent and the Yates D3 (NASCAR) intake port up to 0.472" (12 mm) lift, which is the maximum lift of the Coyote's intake cams.[12] The Boss 302 features versions of these cylinder heads with CNC ported intake/exhaust ports and combustion chambers, along with lightened valve-train components and lightweight sodium filled exhaust valves. The Coyote also features a forged crankshaft, powdered metal rods and hypereutectic pistons with oil jets to help piston cooling, while the Boss receives forged connecting rods, pistons and a deletion of the piston oil jets.[13] Engine redline is 7000 rpm for the GT and 7500 rpm for the Boss 302, though the Boss engine has been verified stable up to 8400 rpm. [14]

The engine is Ford's first V8 application of cam torque actuated (CTA) Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT), which allows the power-train control module (PCM) to advance and retard intake and exhaust cam timing independently of each other, providing improved power, fuel economy and reduced emissions. The engine also receives a new composite intake manifold with a single blade 80 mm (3.1 in) throttle mounted low and center, necessitating a relocation of the alternator to the side of the engine. The Boss 302 features a newer shorter-runner composite intake manifold, with the main plenum located above the intake runner entrances, to improve high-rpm horsepower. The engine is assembled in Ford's Essex Engine Plant in Windsor, Ontario, using existing Modular tooling.[15]

For the Australian Ford Falcon-based FPV GT range, the engine has been equipped with an Eaton supercharger.[16]

The 4-valve DOHC Ti-VCT 5.0 L made Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2011.[17]

Vehicles equipped with the 32-valve DOHC Ti-VCT 5.0 L include the following:
2011 Ford Mustang GT, 412 hp (307 kW) @ 6500 rpm, 390 lbft (529 Nm) @ 4250 rpm
2011 Ford F150, 360 hp (268 kW) @ 5500 rpm, 380 lbft (515 Nm) @ 4250 rpm [18]
2011 Ford Falcon GT,[19][20] Supercharged, 449 hp (335 kW) @ 5750 rpm, 420 lbft (569 Nm) @ 2200-5500 rpm[16]
2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302, 444 hp (331 kW) @ 7500 rpm, 380 lbft (515 Nm) @ 4500 rpm [13][21]
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5.0 L Coyote
5.0 L 4-valve Ti-VCT DOHC V8 installed in a 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302
The 5.0 L (4951 cc, 302 cid)[9] "Coyote" V8 is the latest evolution of the Modular engine.[10] It shares the 4.6 L's 100 mm (3.937 in) bore spacing and 227 mm (8.937 in) deck height,[11] while bore diameter and stroke have increased to 92.2mm (3.629 in) and 92.7mm (3.649 in), respectively. The engine also retains the 4.6 L's 150.7 mm (5.933 in) connecting rod length, which produces a 1.62:1 rod to stroke ratio.[12] The firing order has been changed from that shared by all previous Modular V8s (1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8) to that of the Ford Flathead V8 (1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2).[12] Compression ratio is 11.0:1, and despite having typical port fuel injection (as opposed to direct injection) the engine can still be run on 87 octane gasoline.

The Coyote features a revised aluminum engine block with improved strength and crank-case ventilation, and all new 4V DOHC cylinder heads that have shifted the camshafts outboard, which allowed for a compact roller finger follower setup and improved (raised) intake port geometry. The result is an intake port that outflows the Ford GT intake port by 4 percent and the Yates D3 (NASCAR) intake port up to 0.472" (12 mm) lift, which is the maximum lift of the Coyote's intake cams.[12] The Boss 302 features versions of these cylinder heads with CNC ported intake/exhaust ports and combustion chambers, along with lightened valve-train components and lightweight sodium filled exhaust valves. The Coyote also features a forged crankshaft, powdered metal rods and hypereutectic pistons with oil jets to help piston cooling, while the Boss receives forged connecting rods, pistons and a deletion of the piston oil jets.[13] Engine redline is 7000 rpm for the GT and 7500 rpm for the Boss 302, though the Boss engine has been verified stable up to 8400 rpm. [14]

The engine is Ford's first V8 application of cam torque actuated (CTA) Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT), which allows the power-train control module (PCM) to advance and retard intake and exhaust cam timing independently of each other, providing improved power, fuel economy and reduced emissions. The engine also receives a new composite intake manifold with a single blade 80 mm (3.1 in) throttle mounted low and center, necessitating a relocation of the alternator to the side of the engine. The Boss 302 features a newer shorter-runner composite intake manifold, with the main plenum located above the intake runner entrances, to improve high-rpm horsepower. The engine is assembled in Ford's Essex Engine Plant in Windsor, Ontario, using existing Modular tooling.[15]

For the Australian Ford Falcon-based FPV GT range, the engine has been equipped with an Eaton supercharger.[16]

The 4-valve DOHC Ti-VCT 5.0 L made Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2011.[17]

Vehicles equipped with the 32-valve DOHC Ti-VCT 5.0 L include the following:
2011 Ford Mustang GT, 412 hp (307 kW) @ 6500 rpm, 390 lbft (529 Nm) @ 4250 rpm
2011 Ford F150, 360 hp (268 kW) @ 5500 rpm, 380 lbft (515 Nm) @ 4250 rpm [18]
2011 Ford Falcon GT,[19][20] Supercharged, 449 hp (335 kW) @ 5750 rpm, 420 lbft (569 Nm) @ 2200-5500 rpm[16]
2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302, 444 hp (331 kW) @ 7500 rpm, 380 lbft (515 Nm) @ 4500 rpm [13][21]

WOW, cool . Great info!
So basically the same firing order as a Flathead V8 only a little bit more HP and slightly more Torque!! all in a new shiny package...
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5.0 L Coyote
5.0 L 4-valve Ti-VCT DOHC V8 installed in a 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302
The 5.0 L (4951 cc, 302 cid)[9] "Coyote" V8 is the latest evolution of the Modular engine.[10] It shares the 4.6 L's 100 mm (3.937 in) bore spacing and 227 mm (8.937 in) deck height,[11] while bore diameter and stroke have increased to 92.2mm (3.629 in) and 92.7mm (3.649 in), respectively. The engine also retains the 4.6 L's 150.7 mm (5.933 in) connecting rod length, which produces a 1.62:1 rod to stroke ratio.[12] The firing order has been changed from that shared by all previous Modular V8s (1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8) to that of the Ford Flathead V8 (1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2).[12] Compression ratio is 11.0:1, and despite having typical port fuel injection (as opposed to direct injection) the engine can still be run on 87 octane gasoline.

The Coyote features a revised aluminum engine block with improved strength and crank-case ventilation, and all new 4V DOHC cylinder heads that have shifted the camshafts outboard, which allowed for a compact roller finger follower setup and improved (raised) intake port geometry. The result is an intake port that outflows the Ford GT intake port by 4 percent and the Yates D3 (NASCAR) intake port up to 0.472" (12 mm) lift, which is the maximum lift of the Coyote's intake cams.[12] The Boss 302 features versions of these cylinder heads with CNC ported intake/exhaust ports and combustion chambers, along with lightened valve-train components and lightweight sodium filled exhaust valves. The Coyote also features a forged crankshaft, powdered metal rods and hypereutectic pistons with oil jets to help piston cooling, while the Boss receives forged connecting rods, pistons and a deletion of the piston oil jets.[13] Engine redline is 7000 rpm for the GT and 7500 rpm for the Boss 302, though the Boss engine has been verified stable up to 8400 rpm. [14]

The engine is Ford's first V8 application of cam torque actuated (CTA) Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT), which allows the power-train control module (PCM) to advance and retard intake and exhaust cam timing independently of each other, providing improved power, fuel economy and reduced emissions. The engine also receives a new composite intake manifold with a single blade 80 mm (3.1 in) throttle mounted low and center, necessitating a relocation of the alternator to the side of the engine. The Boss 302 features a newer shorter-runner composite intake manifold, with the main plenum located above the intake runner entrances, to improve high-rpm horsepower. The engine is assembled in Ford's Essex Engine Plant in Windsor, Ontario, using existing Modular tooling.[15]

For the Australian Ford Falcon-based FPV GT range, the engine has been equipped with an Eaton supercharger.[16]

The 4-valve DOHC Ti-VCT 5.0 L made Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2011.[17]

Vehicles equipped with the 32-valve DOHC Ti-VCT 5.0 L include the following:
2011 Ford Mustang GT, 412 hp (307 kW) @ 6500 rpm, 390 lbft (529 Nm) @ 4250 rpm
2011 Ford F150, 360 hp (268 kW) @ 5500 rpm, 380 lbft (515 Nm) @ 4250 rpm [18]
2011 Ford Falcon GT,[19][20] Supercharged, 449 hp (335 kW) @ 5750 rpm, 420 lbft (569 Nm) @ 2200-5500 rpm[16]
2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302, 444 hp (331 kW) @ 7500 rpm, 380 lbft (515 Nm) @ 4500 rpm [13][21]
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Any idea if it will fit in a 51 F1? There was a good episode featuring the Coyote on Speed, I think? They were building a Raybestos hot rod with the coyote motor. They did some cool things with the injector ports on top to make it look like it belonged in the 32 ford.

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Here is a link of it running: Raybestos Coyote Engine Firing Up

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Here is a link of it running: Raybestos Coyote Engine Firing Up

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Any idea if it will fit in a 51 F1? There was a good episode featuring the Coyote on Speed, I think? They were building a Raybestos hot rod with the coyote motor. They did some cool things with the injector ports on top to make it look like it belonged in the 32 ford.

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If it fits in a 32 roadster then it's a good bet that it will fit in an F1. I haven't seen actual dimensions published yet but the word on the street is that the outer dimensions are virtually the same as the modular engines. Most crate motors these days come with a very detailed installation guide that shows all the outer dimensions (among other important details)...maybe someone has access to one of these guides.
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I have been working towards this goal all year. I hope to be the first with one in a rolling chassis. We are almost done with the Chassis so I am on the hunt for a wrecked GT. I have done a ton a research on the subject. The biggest areas of concern are the powersteering and AC brackets as the 2011 GT has electric steer. There is now a solution to these problems but I have not seen the pics of the AC bracket yet as it is not for sale yet. Next it is a electronic gas pedal and the wiring kit from Ford is for a standard, thus if you want to go automatic, you have to pony up for another computer to control the Trans. There has been 4-5 of these stuffed into Fox Body and SN95 mustangs already. All Sticks. There are a few people on this forum who have already but a 4 Valve Mod motor in there truck so it fits between the framerails. The questions will be around the headers, steering and Brake booster once I get the motor in. Either way it will be about a $10k deal when all said and done.
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