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Old 01-18-2013, 10:09 PM
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I was looking at the starter cable when I was replacing the battery cables. It does look thinner, but it is much thicker than the old battery cables, so I'm not sure what gauge it is. I think it's the original starter cable.

So this brings another question to mind. What was the actual gauge of the original cables in these 6 volt trucks? Was it 1/0 like my new cables? Or was it more like 4 gauge or 2 gauge? I know you can use 4 gauge in an 80 amp circuit and 2 gauge in a 100 amp circuit.

Somebody on here must know what was stock...
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Joe,

Glad you were able to get the cables while I was gone. We were out hunting places to get a flu shot for the family and came up short. We came home about 10 minutes after you left. Let's do some better planning next time so I can give you a ride in the panel truck.

Let me know if you want the solenoid to starter cable done. I may have one already made in that length. If not, I can get one made.

BTW, the cables are 2/0. I found that 1/0 is too thick and 2/0 works just fine.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:45 PM
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BTW, the cables are 2/0. I found that 1/0 is too thick and 2/0 works just fine.
Just goes to show you what I know... I thought 2/0 was thicker than 1/0.

Actually, I think it is, at least according to this chart...

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Sorry I missed you. I actually stopped to eat dinner, since I didn't get breakfast or lunch. So that's why I got there after you left. Wish you could have found a place to get the shots. They're advertising availability at some food stores with pharmacies around here.

But I can't thank you enough for getting the cables made for me. They work really well. And if they are 2/0, maybe that's why my starter cable looks thinner?
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You're right, Joe. It's been a busy week and the sizing slipped my mind.

What I should have said is that 1/0 is not thick enough, IMO, and minimum size should be 2/0.
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Well I learned something new on wire gauges.
I was wondering about the 1/0, 2/0 etc. I hadn't dealt in wire that thick before. So 1/0 if 0 and 2/0 is 00 etc. now it makes sense.
I love this site, where else can you say "Those are some sweet looking cables." without being looked at like a complete nut. I mean people already think I'm crazy....
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So 1/0 is 0 and 2/0 is 00 etc. now it makes sense.
Joe, that would be a correct comparison if we're talking about buckshot. Since "0" shot (.32" diameter) has 9 pellets per ounce and the slightly larger "00" shot (.33" diameter) has only 8 pellets per ounce.
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...where else can you say "Those are some sweet looking cables." without being looked at like a complete nut.
San Francisco. But then you can just about say anything there without being looked at like a complete nut.
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Metal Bumping for a beginner

At the recommendation of AXracer, I got the 4th edition of the Key to Metal Bumping by Frank T Sargent for Christmas. It was a great stocking stuffer.

I read the book last week, and started to analyze the body damage on my truck using the methods described in the book. And while there's not a lot of body work to do on Betsy, I still am uncertain how to start. Here are some pics of what I want to bump. Hopefully, someone with experience will comment. I've never done any body work.

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Dolly on outside while hammering inside. Then alternate back and forth to get the high and low spots out until it's smooth enough for body filler.
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No video, but I drove Betsy to Costco this morning to fill the tank. It's the first time I've driven her that far. Only about an 8 mile drive, but lots of fun nonetheless.

Our California streets are not exactly in good repair, since we only give the state about $.25 a gallon to keep them repaired. So I bounced merrily along on surface streets. And I mean I thought I got airborne a couple of times.

My wife was following in the Ranger to fill it up as well. She checked my speed, and when I was showing 30 on my speedo, she said I was doing 45. That makes sense because it felt like a lot faster than 30. Guess the rear radials aren't tall enough. But it did capture the correct mileage... hmmm

I downloaded a GPS Speedo to my smart phone, but I couldn't get it to work...

Amazing how stiff this suspension is, as it has the 10,000 pound GVWR and NO weight on the back. If it was a Harley, I'd call it a hard tail.
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That is the joy of driving an old work truck. If you are running with no load you can set the air pressure in the duals a lot lower than the max rating. Doing that helps a little.
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That is the joy of driving an old work truck. If you are running with no load you can set the air pressure in the duals a lot lower than the max rating. Doing that helps a little.

Thanks. I hadn't thought of lowering the tire pressure. How low do you think I can go? I think max pressure is 90 psi.
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Thanks. I hadn't thought of lowering the tire pressure. How low do you think I can go? I think max pressure is 90 psi.
You'll have to play with it a bit and see what works. I wouldn't be afraid to drop them down to at least 35 and see what happens. Remember, there's 4 of them back there and that's a lot of support for the little weight you've got.
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I run our F500 at 60 when unloaded. Using new bias ply 20" tires. If you don't go very fast, risk of overheating/blowout due to sidewall flex is not so bad. However, if dual tires touch, kerblewie!!
At 60, she's still stiff but not nearly as bad as at 80.
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You'll have to play with it a bit and see what works. I wouldn't be afraid to drop them down to at least 35 and see what happens. Remember, there's 4 of them back there and that's a lot of support for the little weight you've got.
Thanks Wayne. I'll give that a try and see what happens.
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