Unofficial Details Leak About Ford and GM Next-Generation Pickup Truck Engines - PickupTrucks.com News

Thoughts and Ideas?

 

Meh, it's probably bound to happen. the ecoboost available now is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

I know that Cummins is testing an ISF derivative in a current gen Nissan Titan. Supposed to be Tier II BIN II. I'd love to see that motor in a half ton. I hate to say it, but I could be persuaded into a half ton diesel from any of the big 3. It's such a shame that ford didn't put that 4.4 liter in this truck. It's just aching for it!

 

I still wouldn't count a 1/2 ton diesel out of the equation. I noticed ''while reading threw the comments'' that some people were worried that these new 2.7L and 3.0L engines are going to be the only offerings in the next Gen F-150. But Mike Levine mentiond something about the 2.7L being a replacement for the 3.7L and the 3.0L being a replacement for the 3.5L Ecoboost. And that the 5.0L and 6.2L would remain as options.

So what it sounds like to me is that Ford is experimenting with different types of engines. I hope that the 4.4L does find its way to the F-150 eventually...It is without question a perfect fit for the F-150. I know that there is a strong rumor that Chrysler is working on getting a 5.0L Cummins V8 into their Ram 1/2 ton pickups. If they do pull the trigger and get it in their trucks I do beleive both Ford and GM will follow suite with their 1/2 tons.

 

In addition to the two smaller V-6's, I think Ford needs to look heavily at the next gen base engine in the SD. The 6.2L is not the answer, it's a bandade. An EB 5.0L or similar would have been the right answer for the heavier trucks.

IMHO, if Ford moves ahead with the diesel, it's only because the competition is. I'm not seeing the benefits now that we have a V-6 gasser that will tow over 11,000 lbs in an F-150. The diesel will be limited by it's chassis, so what's to be gained besides a premium engine fee and higher maintenance?

I still think the right answer overall is a fleet of multi-fueled engines.

 

I'm not going to get worked up until this is official - hopefully when Obama leaves office in 2013, it will nip this crap in the butt.

 

No matter who is in office, it's coming. This technology will be good but will cost us thousands more per car, which is bad.

 

I don't think the pressure will be there with another president. It didn't help that O shut down the majority of our oil here in the US for no real reason except that he promised to buy from Brazil, among others.

I could on and on but I told someone the other day that I'm voting for ANYONE ELSE '12 and they seemed to get offended, saying that this situation America is in could get worse - I have a hard time believing that ;-)

 

I really don't think it will make any difference who the president is. It's coming whether we like it or not. It all started in the 60's when the EPA was created under intense lobbying by treehuggers from California. The EPA has its place, but has grown way too powerful. But I do embrace and welcome new technology. I just don't like it forced down our throats and being required to pay thru the nose for it. For me, it looks like the current 3.5L Ecoboost engine is going to be the ticket when I'm ready for my next truck. It is extremely difficult to make the torque required for towing with small displacement engines even with turbo so I don't think that the next gen F150 will fill the bill for me.

 

These two engines are not the end all do all engines for the next gen F-150...I personally spoke with Mike Levine (Pickuptrucks.com moderator) Via E-mail and he explained to me that as he understands and speculates the 5.0L and 6.2L will remain options in the next generation F-150 but the new 2.7L will replace the current 3.7L V6 and the 3.0L will replace the Current 3.5L Ecoboost.

But as its already been said...All this news is UNoffical. So there is still nothing concrete at this point.

 

I was just going to post the same thing. Diesels today are not what they were a couple years ago. With diesel being significantly more expensive and all of the new mandates, the maintenance appears to be quite expensive. I'm not sure there's enough benefit there anymore for it to make financially sense.

 

There will be a handful of people, my dad comes to mind, that will be hard-pressed to choose a V-6 (and you and I know what the V-6 can do... I saw it prove itself again last night on ice road truckers - even my hubs was like WOW... it was an FX4 EB) engine over their beloved diesel.

It is kind of like my grandma still voting democrat. It is what she is used to so it is what she does - she doesn't really pay attention to the news, so she goes with what has worked for her most of her life.

All these changes - and so fast, it seems - are going to scare some people from buying new for a while. Nobody likes change ;-)

 

I don't mind change if it's for the better. But I don't like it forced on me. Nor do I like paying a premium price for change when the the way things are works fine. I am quite sure that if the government didn't mandate most of the changes in the auto industry people would still embrace the changes, just at a slower pace.

 

I agree - slow & steady wins the race

 

You want better MPG put the trucks on a diet, there to freakin big and heavy !