Exhaust pipe broke away from Catalytic Converter
#1
07-28-2011, 08:35 PM
Exhaust pipe broke away from Catalytic Converter
I'm heading into the dealership tomorrow to have my 2006 F250 6.0L inspected. I heard a rattling sound when closing my door, looked under the truck, and behold I see that the catalytic converter has seperated from the exhaust pipe. This break has occurred on the muffler side of the catalytic converter and there are four gouges now. All straps and rubber o-rings are attached and in good condition. Not sure why this happened. Drive on paved roads here.
Any thoughts on if this should / will be covered under the Ford Premium Care warranty plan? I'm at just under 6 years and 70,000 miles, still under the extended plan that I bought.
Any thoughts on if this should / will be covered under the Ford Premium Care warranty plan? I'm at just under 6 years and 70,000 miles, still under the extended plan that I bought.
#2
07-28-2011, 08:48 PM
#3
07-28-2011, 09:45 PM
All catalytic converters are covered up to 80,000 miles by Federal regulation. You'll be fine.
EPA Source: http://www.epa.gov/oms/consumer/warr95fs.txt
The catalytic converter is considered a "Major component." I have made bold the parts that apply to you in the document above. You really should have no trouble getting Ford to replace it. I know that for a while they were back ordered so you might have to wait for that, but (if it applies to you) you can get a Smog extension if you are due.
The Performance Warranty covers repairs which are required during
the first 2 years or 24,000 miles of vehicle use because the vehicle
failed an emission test. Specified major emission control components
are covered for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles. If you are a
resident of an area with an Inspection and Maintenance (I/M) program
that meets federal guidelines, you are eligible for this warranty
protection provided that:
* Your car or light-duty truck fails an approved emissions test;
and
* Your vehicle is less than 2 years old and has less than 24,000
miles (up to 8 years/80,000 miles for certain components); and
* Your state or local government requires that you repair the
vehicle; and
* The test failure does not result from misuse of the vehicle or a
failure to follow the manufacturers' written maintenance
instructions; and
* You present the vehicle to a warranty-authorized manufacturer
representative, along with evidence of the emission test failure,
during the warranty period.
the first 2 years or 24,000 miles of vehicle use because the vehicle
failed an emission test. Specified major emission control components
are covered for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles. If you are a
resident of an area with an Inspection and Maintenance (I/M) program
that meets federal guidelines, you are eligible for this warranty
protection provided that:
* Your car or light-duty truck fails an approved emissions test;
and
* Your vehicle is less than 2 years old and has less than 24,000
miles (up to 8 years/80,000 miles for certain components); and
* Your state or local government requires that you repair the
vehicle; and
* The test failure does not result from misuse of the vehicle or a
failure to follow the manufacturers' written maintenance
instructions; and
* You present the vehicle to a warranty-authorized manufacturer
representative, along with evidence of the emission test failure,
during the warranty period.
The catalytic converter is considered a "Major component." I have made bold the parts that apply to you in the document above. You really should have no trouble getting Ford to replace it. I know that for a while they were back ordered so you might have to wait for that, but (if it applies to you) you can get a Smog extension if you are due.
#4
07-28-2011, 11:52 PM
Yup. Major emissions components will be covered to 8 years or 80K. And the CAT is a major emissions component.
If the dealer gives you any heartache over it, just show 'em this document from the EPA.
EPA EMISSIONS WARRANTY REQUIREMENTS
EDIT: Didn't see Trey posted the same link above.
If the dealer gives you any heartache over it, just show 'em this document from the EPA.
EPA EMISSIONS WARRANTY REQUIREMENTS
EDIT: Didn't see Trey posted the same link above.
#5
07-29-2011, 09:35 AM
I was just told by my local dealer that my Catalytic Converter is not covered under warranty. The service guy looked up summaries of covered items from their computer. He was nice and double checked. I read the document above and it looks like I should be covered without a failed inspection as this is obviously not goig to pass anyone's visual... does the above document cover my F250 or is there a vehicle wait limit?
#7
07-29-2011, 10:11 AM
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#8
07-29-2011, 11:09 AM
Agreed, he is probably looking at Fords warranty. Not the EPA one. If worst comes to worst pay $40 for a smog test knowing you'll fail. Should take only a few mins before the smog tech fails you. Now you have a proof of a failure and Ford HAS to replace it.
#10
07-29-2011, 12:32 PM
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#11
07-29-2011, 01:05 PM
#12
07-29-2011, 06:40 PM
It seemed very honest. Once I brought the service rep to the EPA website he read through it and we agreed it covered my truck. Seemed more of an educational type thing on both ends. I was honestly surprised my Premium Care wouldn't cover a Catalytic Converter! Never even thought to read the fine print on such an important item for EPA reasons.
#13
07-29-2011, 07:29 PM
It seemed very honest. Once I brought the service rep to the EPA website he read through it and we agreed it covered my truck. Seemed more of an educational type thing on both ends. I was honestly surprised my Premium Care wouldn't cover a Catalytic Converter! Never even thought to read the fine print on such an important item for EPA reasons.
#14
07-30-2011, 01:19 AM
#15
07-30-2011, 08:28 AM
it is in the the 2006 Ford Warranty Guide (5th printing) which you can download at
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../06frdwa5e.pdf.
Page 12:
EMISSIONS DEFECT WARRANTY COVERAGE
During the warranty coverage period, Ford Motor Company warrants that:
• your vehicle or engine is designed, built, and equipped to meet - at
the time it is sold - the emissions regulations of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).
• your vehicle or engine is free from defects in factory-supplied materials or workmanship that could prevent it from conforming with applicable EPA regulations.
• you will not be charged for diagnosis, repair, replacement, or adjustment of defective emissions-related parts listed under What is Covered? on pages 13-15.
The warranty coverage period for:
• Passenger cars, light duty trucks (vehicles with a GVWR of 8,500 pounds
or less
— 8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for catalytic converter, powertrain control module, onboard emissions diagnostic
device, natural gas vehicle (NGV) module (Bi-fuel/CNG), electronic
emission control unit, and transmission control module;
— 3 years or 36,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for all other covered parts.
• Heavy duty vehicles (vehicles with a gross vehicle weight over 8,500
pounds)
— 5 years or 100,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for covered diesel engine parts;
— 5 years or 50,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for all other covered parts.