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Radiators once again covered if you have a rad hose o-ring leaking

I decided to start a new post since the other one has gotten so long.

So, once again Ford has updated this TSB. First it was the venturi tee that was causing radiators to break, then it was hyper-extended thermostasts, and now it is the leaking o-rings inside rad hoses that cause low coolant which stresses the radiator causing it to break.

So for everyone, the new TSB is 11-6-6. As part of this tsb, if you have a leaking o-ring inside one of the rad hoses or the appearance of dried coolant indicating a leak and your radiator is leaking then all of the repair is CODED to 8590 which is the o-ring which is covered for 5 years/100000 miles.

As part of the repair, they replace either or both radiator hoses-they have been redesigned to include 2 o-rings. The radiator is replaced of course, as well as the reservoir and cap. Which is why as of this posting, the reservoirs are on national back order.

So if you have a leaking radiator, take a good look at those hoses and see if they are leaking as well and it will be covered by the warranty.

I feel bad for all those people who had to pay out of pocket for a radiator repair when it may have been simply caused by a cheap o-ring that now Ford is covering under warranty.
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11-6-6 • 6.4L - RADIATOR LEAKING COOLANT
[************]Publication Date: June 3, 2011[/color]

FORD: 2008-2010 F-250, F-350, F-450, F-550



This article supersedes TSB 11-1-7 to update the Issue Statement, Service Procedure, Part List and Service Labor Time Standards. ISSUE:

Some F-Super Duty vehicles equipped with a 6.4L engine may exhibit an external coolant leak from the radiator. Slow leaks at cooling system hoses/connections can lead to low coolant levels. Excessive hot and cold cycling associated with low coolant levels can cause stress within the radiator tubes, possibly resulting in cracks in the tubes.
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Follow service procedure steps to repair this concern.
SERVICE PROCEDURE



Thermostat inspection is no longer required because IDS release 71.04 and later added a cooling system monitor.
1. Inspect for the cooling system venturi tee being installed and verify proper orientation. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-03, Degas Bottle - 6.4L Diesel.
2. Degas bottle port inspection and repair:
1. Dual-port design requires the degas bottle to be replaced with the single-port design and a new degas bottle cap. (Figure 1) Proceed to Step 3.


Figure 1 - Article 11-6-6
2. Single-port design requires inspection of the degas bottle cap sealing surface for nicks and/or cracks. If present, replace the degas bottle and degas bottle cap. Proceed to Step 3.
3. Coolant leak inspection and repair:
1. Visually inspect all cooling system hoses/connections for evidence of coolant loss such as white coolant residue (dried coolant) or liquid coolant and repair as necessary. (Figure 2)


Figure 2 - Article 11-6-6
2. If a leak is found at a radiator hose O-ring seal, the radiator hose should be replaced. The upper and lower radiator hoses have been updated with a dual O-ring seal design for improved sealing.
4. Replace the radiator. Refer to WSM, Section 303-03.
1. Be sure to remove the engine coolant block plugs from both sides of the engine to drain the coolant from the engine block.
2. Fill the cooling system with a 50/50 mixture of distilled water and new Motorcraft® Premium Gold Engine Coolant. Do not reuse coolant that was drained from the cooling system.
3. Utilize the Rotunda Heavy Duty Airlift II radiator refiller tool (UVU550500INT) or equivalent when filling the cooling system. Filling without use of the Heavy Duty Airlift II radiator refiller tool may leave excessive air in the system
PART NUMBER PART NAME
8C3Z-8009-B Radiator
9C3Z-8A080-AA Degas bottle
9C3Z-8101-B Cap- Degas bottle
AC3Z-8260-A Upper Radiator hose
AC3Z-8286-A Lower radiator hose
8C3Z-8B379-B Venturi Tee
VC-7-B Motorcraft® Premium Gold Engine Coolant


WARRANTY STATUS:

Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
110606A 2008-2010 F-Super Duty 6.4L: Inspect The Cooling System, Correct Or Install Venturi Tee, Replace The Radiator, Includes Time To Drain And Fill The Cooling System (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 2.8 Hrs.
110606B 2008-2010 F-Super Duty 6.4L: Inspect The Cooling System, Correct Or Install The Venturi Tee, Replace The Degas Bottle And Cap If Necessary, Replace The Radiator, Includes Time To Drain And Fill The Cooling System (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 3.2 Hrs.
110606C 2008-2010 F-Super Duty 6.4L: Inspect The Cooling System, Correct Or Install Venturi Tee, Replace The Upper And Lower Radiator Hoses, Replace The Radiator, Includes Time To Drain And Fill The Cooling System (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 2.9 Hrs.
110606D 2008-2010 F-Super Duty 6.4L: Inspect The Cooling System, Correct Or Install The Venturi Tee, Replace The Degas Bottle And Cap If Necessary, Replace The Upper And Lower Radiator Hoses, Replace The Radiator, Includes Time To Drain And Fill The Cooling System (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 3.3 Hrs.
MT110606 For Any Additional Cooling System Repairs Use SLTS Operations If Available Or Actual Time Actual Time

DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
8009 (Operations A or B) 42
8590 (Operations C or D) 42


NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.
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Also sucks for those of us that had a bad O ring and all they did was replace it and nothing else. Kind of hoping for another O ring leak now. Wonder if they extend that O ring warranty if you buy the 2/100K warranty.
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how do I make it leak to get it fixed under warranty?
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Easy, drive it ...............
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Doggone it! My upper radiator hose cost me a short year ago. Are they saying it now has the 100,000 mile/5 year warranty too?
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I just replace the lower hose o-rings, Before I did it I called ford service and was told not covered under 5/100 warranty.
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I haven't had a radiator issue yet other then the addition of the venturi, but good to know if that changes.
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My dad just got bent over to the tune of $1157.00 for a radiator less than a week ago. I was told he was getting a break on labor as well as parts(ya right) I am pretty sure it won't do any good but I will contact the service mgr. to see if they can go back on this tsb.
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I just replace the lower hose o-rings, Before I did it I called ford service and was told not covered under 5/100 warranty.
O-rings insided the radiator hoses have a basic code of 8590. When coded this way, it is covered for 5yrs/100,000 miles.
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The cost for o-rings wasn't bad, But it would have been nice to get new hoses.
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Sounds like you need a new dealer if they wouldn't replace them under warranty, had mine done late last year with 73K miles all covered under warranty.
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My dad just got bent over to the tune of $1157.00 for a radiator less than a week ago. I was told he was getting a break on labor as well as parts(ya right) I am pretty sure it won't do any good but I will contact the service mgr. to see if they can go back on this tsb.
Looks to be dated june 3, print it out and take it with you. I don't think they have a leg to stand on. They probably just didn't know about it.
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I just replace the lower hose o-rings, Before I did it I called ford service and was told not covered under 5/100 warranty.

My dealer told me it was not covered. I had 25K on the truck but 37 months. They denied it "on time". Service manager said that "it's normal for the o-rings to go bad at 25K.
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