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Old 08-22-2014, 01:56 PM
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I have a 1996 F150 4.9 I6 4x4 5-speed longbed standard cab. I love it, but I'm sure I would love a 5.0 (or 5.8) V8 for what they are. Each one is different and has its good points and bad points.
I have to agree that there are many, many performance parts for the 5.0 V8. If my 4.9 was worn out & I wanted to do an engine swap, I would certainly consider getting a V8 with some performance modifications, mainly because it would probably be easier (and cheaper) than finding a 4.9 I would want to swap in. That being said, I think a performance-modified 4.9 would be pretty wicked!
I like the fact that the 4.9 I6 is a versatile engine used for a lot of different industrial applications.
Have you ever had a package delivered by UPS? (who hasn't?) The UPS truck was quite possibly powered by a 4.9 I6. I read they were commonly used for those for a long time (and may still be).
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The first truck I ever drove was powered by a 5.0l and back then I loved it. It's been too long to compare it to my current truck with the 4.9l, but each one works well in these OBS trucks. My 4.9l gets decent gas mileage for having vacuum issues and no matter how sad it sometimes sounds, it seems like it's ready for another adventure. On the flip side, I'm used to high revving engines and the 4.9l is not one. Lug it all day long, sure, but don't ask it to accelerate high or fast. Think of it as the turtle in a race. It'll finish, but not quickly.
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I never really heard much great about the 5.0, but I had little 1st hand experience.

My dad had an 80 and 84 with them. Both were 2wd long beds. The 84 was stick and I was only 7 so I vaguely remember it.

Then when i was 18 he got 80' with a blown 4.9 in it. We go a wrecked 82' with 302 and the AOD. Put that into the 80'. We did ALOT of trips from Northern NJ to Southern VA. The truck averaged 18mpg. It was slow but the truck rode great and even with the bed loaded with stuff it still got good fuel milage.

My only other experience is my 96 bronco(6" lift and 35s). When I saw it was for sale, I saw it was a stick so I knew the 5.8 was out . Then when I looked under the truck and saw the oil filter sticking thru the crossmember I cringed. I was thinking what a gutless DOG. I test drove it anyway. It was pretty snotty!! The guy said previous owner made it a 347 stoker. Bought the Bronco and towed it home. After looking over the truck more, I realized it was NOT a 347. just a 302. But someone put 4.56 gears in it!!. I give the truck no mercy. I drive it like I stole it. I have yet to get less than 13mpg and it regularly gets 15mpg.

As for the 4.9. My brother had a 96 reg cab long bed 4wd 5speed. It was terribly gutless. But it did have 3.27 gears. Hut put a set of 4.10s in it w 33" tires. Still gutless and never saw over 13mpg
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:11 PM
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I'm looking for a truck as I mentioned a few posts ago with a 3k ( ish ) budget. Two have the 5.0 and one has the 4.9 and they meet my criteria of 4X4, auto, 8 ft bed and either the 5.0 or the 4.9.

This thread was a good read.

At the moment I am leaning towards the 4.9 For the sheer durability factor.

There are also 3 4.9 that meet all criteria except for no 4x4. All have low mileage ...one 150k ....one 145k and one 48K ... Too bad a 2wd to 4wd swap costs too much.

The top 3 in the running in my price range are

1993 ford f150 xlt v8 pickup truck for $2300
Clean truck no accidents clean title everything solid come take a look
8 Foot bed with liner
302 V8 140k mi
It looks great in the pictures and has dual tanks. XLT means power everything.

Next is this one :

1991 Ford F-150 XLT $3000 116K mi
Changed plugs and wires not too long ago and changed the oil every 3k miles i baby this truck. New tires Futura Scrambler 31x10.50x15
5.0 V8, auto trans, new warn manual hubs. It is 4x4. The interior is in mint condition

1996 F-150 straight 6 that runs great. $2500
4 wheel drive with locking hubs. 133,833 original miles. some body rust normal amount for vehicles age. no air conditioning. automatic transmission. 8ft bed. new front gas tank and fuel pump new back gas tank and fuel pump. new universal joint, new ball joints, new brakes, and new starter.


Ugh the more I read up on these engines the harder it gets lol.
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For the record I've had 2 trucks.

#1 1987 f250 with the 351W .

# 2 was my baby 79 f250 with a 390
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:31 PM
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If there was a good priced and shape 351 i would get it... I get around 17 interstate with mine and 15ish city/highway... And you have a lot more omph than the 300 or the 302..
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Rlacan,
If you want a truck that can haul big loads all day, get the 4.9l. If you want a truck with more speed, get the 5.0l. It all depends on what you will be using it for. Either one will last for over 300k if maintained right.
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If you want a truck that can haul big loads all day, get the 4.9l. If you want a truck with more speed, get the 5.0l. It all depends on what you will be using it for. Either one will last for over 300k if maintained right.
....Sounds like you should change your name to meslow ...lol
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If you want a truck that can haul big loads all day, get the 4.9l. If you want a truck with more speed, get the 5.0l. It all depends on what you will be using it for. Either one will last for over 300k if maintained right.
Yeah atm unless I can afford to keep whatever I get and my Sentra on the road Whatever I get will be my daily driver.

6 miles round trip to day job. 16 round trip to night job.

on paper the 5.0 seems a better choice but from most posts On here and some other sites seems like the 4.9 edges the 5.0 in MPG? nothing crazy but a little? Add in the Durability...from what ive read and from some things my dad had told me on a 1-10 in durability the 3.0 is a solid 8 and the 4.9 a 10. Part of my lean to the 4.9 is the ( probably flawed ) idea that money saved in repairs will help cushion the blow of the mpg difference from my car to the truck.

As I said a couple times whatever I get will be pretty much driven like a car. But when I need it as a truck I want all the truck I can get. Hardware store runs...Moving furniture etc....4x4 snow...and some trips to recycle.
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This is a slight hijack here I'm sorry. I should put all my crap in a thread entitled....lost

Either way in 3 weeks at the most I will have a truck...most likely either a 4.9 or the 5.0 and at least I will be able to actually ....wait for it....CONTRIBUTE to the discussion lol.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:42 PM
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If there was a good priced and shape 351 i would get it... I get around 17 interstate with mine and 15ish city/highway... And you have a lot more omph than the 300 or the 302..
Oh good god don't go putting more options out there for me. I don't remember my old truck getting that kinda mpg but its been a while. Are those numbers a rough average or is your truck on the high end. Also in my search there was a 351 in my price range....

1990 Ford f150 xlt lariat 4x4 351 5.8 nice truck runs well class 4 hitch, bed liner, power windows, ac(needs charge)4x4 works well- manual hubs, low miles for these trucks i have no use for it, i researched and found that only 10% of these half tons were ordered with the 351 5.8
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Thanks for adding just what I don't need....more options lol.
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Old 08-25-2014, 04:08 PM
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I have owned trucks equipped with both engines. In my personal experience the 300 is the better truck engine for a few reasons. First my 300 powered truck gets 15 mpgs while my comparatively geared 302 powered truck got 13. Not that huge of a deal because its a truck. If you want fuel economy get a prius. My 300 pulls noticeably better than my 302 ever wished it could especially up hill, now im not saying I was racing up hills in my 300 because both engines are dogs uphill with a trailer on with 3.55 gears but my 300 could still outrun the 302 uphill with a trailer on at a lower RPM which makes me feel more comfortable. I don't like to blast my engines all the way up to the redline. The 302 would smoke the 300 unloaded obviously but I ran it harder because its redline is higher. The main and complete reason I think the 300 is better in a truck than the 302 is the fact that it is gear timed with 7 main bearings. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!! Its built like a cat diesel engine lol. If you cant get a 300 to reach 500,000 miles without a major rebuild on something then you have forgotten how to change oil. 500,000 is possible on a stock 302 but its almost standard on a 300 if you take care of what you have. The perfect combination in my opinion is a MAF OBDII 300 engine running a single turbo that spools in the 1800-3200 rpm range with a SF-42 ZF manual trans and the Borg Warner 1356 transfer case in a truck geared with 3.73's and 31 inch tires or 4.11's and 33 inch tires. Before I get married (lol) I am going to build this truck on my 96 f150 eddie bauer edition. Right now its MAF OBDII with the M5OD manual trans and the 1356 transfer case with 3.55's and 31 inch tires getting 15 mpgs everyday no matter what input I give it.
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Old 08-25-2014, 04:54 PM
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I've owned a variety of trucks in my life. They were all Ford's with two exceptions. I've had the 292 Flat head V8, 300 I6's, 302's and now a 351W. All of them were excellent and did a VERY fine job of moving my trucks down the road. My favourite motor is the 351W due to it's combination of power, fuel consumption and reliability although I do understand the sensation of power and the reality of fuel consumption can be easily altered by gearing.

Having said that, I totally loved my 300's. They worked exceptionally well, were simple to repair/maintain and also had an excellent combination of power, fuel consumption and reliability. They also got the best gas mileage of any of my trucks. Well, maybe not the 292 but I was too young back then to even measure it or care what my mileage was. I also simply like lifting the hood and seeing that almost empty engine bay. An inline 6 LOOKS nice.

In the end, it's each to their own. They all work well and get the job done.
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:53 PM
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Haha, maybe. Although if I have my way, this truck will be able to go just as fast as my car....someday...
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Oh good god don't go putting more options out there for me. I don't remember my old truck getting that kinda mpg but its been a while. Are those numbers a rough average or is your truck on the high end. Also in my search there was a 351 in my price range....

1990 Ford f150 xlt lariat 4x4 351 5.8 nice truck runs well class 4 hitch, bed liner, power windows, ac(needs charge)4x4 works well- manual hubs, low miles for these trucks i have no use for it, i researched and found that only 10% of these half tons were ordered with the 351 5.8
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Thanks for adding just what I don't need....more options lol.

Yes those are all calculated averages... And calculated correctly lol

In either option just give it a good tune up and do the 6 liter tune up and redo all vacuum lines with rubber!
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