1951 F1: VIN & Chassis # and other infos for a rookie
#17
[quote=moidan;10560414]hello!
first of all - sorry about my bad english
my name is daniel, i´am from austria, 35 years old, a big ford classic car fan and since 30 day´s the owner of a
1951 F1 Pickup
226 cui
GVWR: 4700 lbs
engine #: 7HA6050-C2
on the following pic you see my
- my friend jackson
- my daughter laura (4yo)
- my son noah (6 month old)
- me
Daniel ..what a beautiful truck,,where did you buy it from?
Looks really cool,,keep in touch,,we want to drive the truck to Europe next year,,,it wil be fun to meet in Austria...if you by anuchance come to london,,,just leet us know,,,,
I bought mine in 2003 but just now i am doing it u,,restoring it all,,,
underneath will be all mustang, engine ,ifs front suspension,,,auto box,,rear axle,,,discs brakes all round,,,,4 bar susension at rear,,but interior and exterior will keep it all original,,it will be a stunning truck with reliability of a mustang gt...engine will produce 370BHP,,,but it will not be a racing truck,,it will be a crusing truck,,,
Yes the identification plate located passenger side in fire wall is the correct number,,howver someone adda k along the way,,,
if you need i can send you a pucture of the vin plate in my truck,,
my son is also called Noah,,he is 3 3/4 and loves classic cars,,,and cars,,,and cars,,and cars,,,madness!!!!
Good luck and best regards
Emanuel
this is the family bus,,,,,used to belong to my grand father when he lived in Brazil,,we brought it to the UK..in 2008
this is the truck engine bay,,still early stages,,,front susoension was done last week,,,engine is on blocks,,,while engine mountings brackets,,,are being made...I am in doubt to paint it in red,,,i would like a different classic colour,,,dont know yet what colour!!!
Noah is having a taste of steering wheel,,it was in a private land, not on public roads,,responsible!!!
first of all - sorry about my bad english
my name is daniel, i´am from austria, 35 years old, a big ford classic car fan and since 30 day´s the owner of a
1951 F1 Pickup
226 cui
GVWR: 4700 lbs
engine #: 7HA6050-C2
on the following pic you see my
- my friend jackson
- my daughter laura (4yo)
- my son noah (6 month old)
- me
Daniel ..what a beautiful truck,,where did you buy it from?
Looks really cool,,keep in touch,,we want to drive the truck to Europe next year,,,it wil be fun to meet in Austria...if you by anuchance come to london,,,just leet us know,,,,
I bought mine in 2003 but just now i am doing it u,,restoring it all,,,
underneath will be all mustang, engine ,ifs front suspension,,,auto box,,rear axle,,,discs brakes all round,,,,4 bar susension at rear,,but interior and exterior will keep it all original,,it will be a stunning truck with reliability of a mustang gt...engine will produce 370BHP,,,but it will not be a racing truck,,it will be a crusing truck,,,
Yes the identification plate located passenger side in fire wall is the correct number,,howver someone adda k along the way,,,
if you need i can send you a pucture of the vin plate in my truck,,
my son is also called Noah,,he is 3 3/4 and loves classic cars,,,and cars,,,and cars,,and cars,,,madness!!!!
Good luck and best regards
Emanuel
this is the family bus,,,,,used to belong to my grand father when he lived in Brazil,,we brought it to the UK..in 2008
this is the truck engine bay,,still early stages,,,front susoension was done last week,,,engine is on blocks,,,while engine mountings brackets,,,are being made...I am in doubt to paint it in red,,,i would like a different classic colour,,,dont know yet what colour!!!
Noah is having a taste of steering wheel,,it was in a private land, not on public roads,,responsible!!!
Last edited by KOMBILOVE; 07-18-2011 at 06:53 AM. Reason: mistake
#18
hi emanuel,
if you drive to europa/austria it will be realy fun to meet in austria we have a lot of nice roads - "the right way" for your truck. like this:
Nockalm Road
what mustang engine to you swap in your truck?
the vw-bulli is awesome and it sounds so as it can tell a long story. you have done great work!
oh yeah - your son have fun: early practice only makes the master
all the best
daniel
if you drive to europa/austria it will be realy fun to meet in austria we have a lot of nice roads - "the right way" for your truck. like this:
Nockalm Road
what mustang engine to you swap in your truck?
the vw-bulli is awesome and it sounds so as it can tell a long story. you have done great work!
oh yeah - your son have fun: early practice only makes the master
all the best
daniel
#19
I must say that I am very glad that I came across this thread. It has been very informative. Special thanks to truckdog for the pictures of the original document. I too am a newbie named Daniel with a 51 F1. But unfortunately I have quite a bit further to go before I can drive it.
Now it it would seem that it has the older vin plate. It reads “F1R1MP254xx” (Forgive me for not wanting to put the whole number out in cyberspace.) It also has a model number of “1R0”. Can anyone help me decode the model? I'm not sure what I hope to get from it, but knowing which shade of green would be nice. Also, it is an 11 digit number. Is that unusual? My father once told me that it was usually 10 digits. As is the case with moidan's.
Daniel H.
Now it it would seem that it has the older vin plate. It reads “F1R1MP254xx” (Forgive me for not wanting to put the whole number out in cyberspace.) It also has a model number of “1R0”. Can anyone help me decode the model? I'm not sure what I hope to get from it, but knowing which shade of green would be nice. Also, it is an 11 digit number. Is that unusual? My father once told me that it was usually 10 digits. As is the case with moidan's.
Daniel H.
#20
#21
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hi emanuel,
if you drive to europa/austria it will be realy fun to meet in austria we have a lot of nice roads - "the right way" for your truck. like this:
Nockalm Road
what mustang engine to you swap in your truck?
the vw-bulli is awesome and it sounds so as it can tell a long story. you have done great work!
oh yeah - your son have fun: early practice only makes the master
all the best
daniel
if you drive to europa/austria it will be realy fun to meet in austria we have a lot of nice roads - "the right way" for your truck. like this:
Nockalm Road
what mustang engine to you swap in your truck?
the vw-bulli is awesome and it sounds so as it can tell a long story. you have done great work!
oh yeah - your son have fun: early practice only makes the master
all the best
daniel
please email your email address,,will send specs of my truck to you,,
cheers
lorente/london
#22
#24
Wayne, working on my old 49 F-1 and I have the frame completely torn down. I was looking at the frame location you mentioned for the VIN # stamp and I cannot find that on mine. Is that supposed to be in front of, or behind where the motor mount is riveted to the frame?
Thanks, Will
Check out my pics if you get the chance.
Thanks, Will
Check out my pics if you get the chance.
#29
The VIN (Vehicle Identifcation Number) registers the entire vehicle. The engine code is the 4th digit (1948/80 trucks).
F1H1KC15485: F1 = 1/2 ton truck only. Does not decode to pickup or any other body type, nor to a Cab & Chassis. / H = 226 1V I-6 / 1 = 1951 / KC = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant / 15485 = Numerical Sequence of Assembly.
At one time, automakers used the engine number to register vehicles, but if the engine was changed, the numbers no longer matched.
Les Kelley, the largest used car dealer in the world, and a Ford Dealer located in downtown Los Angeles' auto row (Figueroa St), came up with the VIN system.
Ford began using VIN's in 1948 for trucks, 1949 for Passenger Cars. By 1955, all US automakers were using VIN's.
Kelley also was the founder of Kelley Blue Books, which were used by banks, finance companies, used/new car dealers, as it listed the wholesale price loan value percentage for every vehicle.
Also listed what they were worth retail/wholesale, with this caveat on the bottom of every page: Deduct for reconditioning.
At one time, Blue Books also listed the location of the hidden VIN's.
This is incorrect and a very common mistake people make when decoding VIN's thru 1972.. The series code does not decode to pickup until 1973.
These trucks were also available as a Cab & Chassis, with a factory installed Flat or Stake Bed.
Just because it has a pickup bed on it...now, does not mean it was a pickup originally.
Incorrect, for the same reasons I listed above.
C was a carry over from 1947, when it referred to 1/2 Commercials.
There are no codes within the VIN, no codes listed on the Rating/Warranty Plates that define a pickup until 1973.
F1H1KC15485: F1 = 1/2 ton truck only. Does not decode to pickup or any other body type, nor to a Cab & Chassis. / H = 226 1V I-6 / 1 = 1951 / KC = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant / 15485 = Numerical Sequence of Assembly.
At one time, automakers used the engine number to register vehicles, but if the engine was changed, the numbers no longer matched.
Les Kelley, the largest used car dealer in the world, and a Ford Dealer located in downtown Los Angeles' auto row (Figueroa St), came up with the VIN system.
Ford began using VIN's in 1948 for trucks, 1949 for Passenger Cars. By 1955, all US automakers were using VIN's.
Kelley also was the founder of Kelley Blue Books, which were used by banks, finance companies, used/new car dealers, as it listed the wholesale price loan value percentage for every vehicle.
Also listed what they were worth retail/wholesale, with this caveat on the bottom of every page: Deduct for reconditioning.
At one time, Blue Books also listed the location of the hidden VIN's.
Originally Posted by 52 Merc
F1 = half ton pickup (F1)
These trucks were also available as a Cab & Chassis, with a factory installed Flat or Stake Bed.
Just because it has a pickup bed on it...now, does not mean it was a pickup originally.
Originally Posted by mtflat
I'd guess your model actually reads 1RC for a halfton pickup.
C was a carry over from 1947, when it referred to 1/2 Commercials.
There are no codes within the VIN, no codes listed on the Rating/Warranty Plates that define a pickup until 1973.