I've said this a few times. Everyone throws in my face the fact that the Taurus and another has been using an EB engine for a while but we all know the Taurus and the 150 don't have the same engine. Yes, it is pulling out of the gates wonderfully but that doesn't mean it will last (or that it won't).

I like how someone else mentioned that the '10 has an engine that 15+ years of experience - yes, it has hiccups, as all do - but it has proved itself. I'm never the first to buy anything, though. I still thing the Iphone is a waste of money. lol.

 

[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][SIZE="3"]In November 2010 I sold my primo 1989 Ford Bronco (5.0) and purchased a 2010 F-150 XLT Super Cab 4X4 with the 5.4L motor and 6 speed transmission. I tow a 28 foot 6,000 lbs travel trailer and have found that my truck is very well qualified to tow this load. The truck drives extremely well, is very comfortable and with all the aniti-sway technology built into the truck, gusty side winds, big rigs etc have very little effect on the stability of the vehicle. I really like my new truck

 

I like my 5.4 as well. The 6 speed has been a very welcome mate to this engine. It's flat torque band is great for towing, and it's tough as nails. But in 2 years when I'm ready for another 150, I can see an EB in the driveway.

 

I agree the 6 speed helped considerably.

 

I wish I had the 6 speed. But I'll put some miles on the old 06 before I switch.

 

I see nothing wrong with any of the mod motors. Had I been in the market last year, I likely would have gotten 5.4L or 4.6L 3V. Either would have more than satisfied my needs.

Buuuuut, fortunately for me, I wasn't in the market till later this year and the 2010's are pretty much gone or all picked over.

I love my EB and I'm happy that I got it now that I have it. The true test will come when these engines are old enough to determine if they will stand tall like the 5.4's did. If my EB lasts as long as a well maintained 5.4L then I'll consider myself one lucky feller.

 

This is true. The 4.6L and 5.4L have proven to be pretty reliable with a few hiccups along the way, such as spark plug issues and cam phasers in the early 3V engines. It is nothing to see these engines go 200K+.
With proper gearing, the higher powerband is not an issue. I will never go numerically lower than 3.73 in a truck again, no matter what engine it has, but that's just me. I'm all about torque multiplication

 

That only makes good sense if you're towing heavy frequently. The 3.31's in my EB have proven to me that you can have a decent tow rating, excellent power for the road and really good mpg's. I only have 600 miles on the truck and I'm averaging about 20 mpg cruising between 70-80. It'll only get better as she wears in.

 

Did you buy new and how long before you noticed the 18-22 mpg?

Wife's truck has 1k on it now and get 17.1 mpg avg so I'm expecting it to improve....course when she's outtah town I gottah believe her that she's driving 70 or < right...ah yeah...right....

Her's is 5.4l w/ 3.55's LS and we drove the 2011 5.0 loaner overnight and well just did not like the get up and go had to jump into the throttle to find any umph in passing gear..... the 5.4 just decide to get up and go and she's gone....but then been driving my 7.3l since 2003 and this gasser thingy is well a fresh experience ..... but a good one glad to have traded of the 2004 Exlpoder...lol..... Happy w/ 5.4 U betch why I can the next victim to pass up from here.....

 

I have put 220,000 km on my 2003 F150 7700 with the 5.4. The only issue i had with it was the exhaust manifold bolts stretching and needing replacement otherwise not a hitch of a problem. That 1st generation 5.4 was good and strong enough for me. I pull a 28ft travel trailer and the engine is what made me decide on last year's 2010 XTR with the 5.4 3V. Feels like a ton more power and boasts a better fuel economy than my old one. I could not be convinced to get a 2011 with all new power plants. I trust no engine unless it has been tried and tested for at least 3 years. My input.

 

Tell me again how the F-150 and the Taurus SHO dont have the same enigne?

I want to hear this....

 

This is from an article from car and driver:

 

Your absolute statement on axle gear ratio simplistically ignores transmission ratios. My '91 BMW 318is has a 4.10 axle with a .8ish overdrive in the transmission. My son's '95 BMW 318ti has a 3.2ish axle with a 1.0 final drive ratio in the trans. Same engine, similar weight, and same overall gearing, more or less. They are both Getrag 5-speed transmissions, and the final drive ratios are identical when you factor in the trans and rear axle gearing.

With the low first gear ratio in the new 6 speed transmission, you have way more first gear pulling power than in the old 4 speed even with a numerically lower axle ratio than your "old days" 3.73 rule.

George

 

I think the 5.4L's a great engine! A little outdated by todays standerds but none the less its tough as nails and was good low end torque engine.

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Okay - not trying to start anything here but all I'm saying is that you wouldn't drop a John Deere riding mower engine in a John Deere combine. They require different size engines - aren't the same.

You wouldn't throw 11k of weight in the back end of a Taurus and expect it to pull.

The EB on both vehicles is the same concept but a different engine. The EB hasn't had the strain under load until now.

I'm not saying the EB won't go on to be the greatest engine ever invented in the history of mankind... I'm saying that I don't like to be the first to do something. Someone else mentioned that they don't like to be the guinea pig and that is my feelings, too.

That doesn't make us bad ppl, just cautious.