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Old 06-30-2011, 02:16 PM
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2005 Explorer Trouble codes HELP!!

Hello Gentleman,
I am new to the forum, but have owned Fords most of my life.
I will admit though, the newer cars are very intimidating to me.
I have no idea what it is I'm looking at under a hood anymore.
Recently, I traded in my 2000 Explorer for a 2005.
I owned the vehicle 2 weeks, went for gas and turned off the truck.
Tried restarting and nothing...DEAD!
My dad came by to jump me and when the truck started, the engine was rattling and knocking and shaking furiously.
I drove it to my mechanic doing 10 mph, with intermittent bursts of power.
He took one look at it and said I needed an engine.

Ok, I just emptied out my savings to buy this truck...so a new engine just can't be so.

What I did next, I never would have done under any other circumstances....but I was desperate.
I took her to the Ford dealer.

2 mechanics came over to me as I pulled in.
One entered the truck and started looking at codes.
The other opened the hood and pointed out to me a pool of coolant that had collected down the center of the engine and told me I needed a head gasket.
I left my baby there for them to diagnose, and got a call the next day.
I needed a new engine....a $4800 engine!

ok, so I went to pick her up and found the top of the engine had been removed, right down to the head gasket I was told needed to be replaced.
Immediately, my suspicion was that they were going to charge me $4800 for a new engine and replace the head gasket.

I told them to put the truck back together and to call me when I can come get it.

Call it fate, call it an omen, but waiting for the truck to be put back together, I saw an infomercial for CarMD and bought it.
I got the truck back yesterday, plugged the CarMD in, and got the following report:
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:23 PM
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CarMD report Part 1

Your Vehicle's Health Status
Powertrain System Results
ENGINE: There is a problem that has caused your Check Engine light to turn on; service is required. A recommended solution is provided in this report.
EMISSIONS: The United Stated Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has set guidelines for each U.S. state to follow when conducting an emissions inspection. CarMD follows this criteria to identify if your vehicle is ready for an emissions test. Based on this criteria, your vehicle is Not Ready and will most likely Fail the inspection. In addition, your vehicle's condition could be polluting the environment - please help protect it.
Safety Systems Results
BRAKE SYSTEM: A code was found in your vehicle’s Antilock Brake System (ABS). Service may be required.
RESTRAINT SYSTEM: There are currently no Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) codes stored in your vehicle.

My Cure
System Est.Parts Cost Est.Parts + Labor
Engine / Transmission $19.80 $124.76
Brake System (ABS) N/A N/A
Safety System (SRS) N/A N/A

Test Results Summary
Check Engine Light Status = ON Ready for Emission Test?=Not Ready
Primary (Check Engine) Codes = P2196, P0174
Available Technical Service Bulletins* = 61
Secondary Codes = P0174, P2196, P2195
Available Safety Recalls = 3
Brake System (ABS) Codes = B1676, U2023
Safety System (SRS) Codes = None

Vehicle Information
VIN: 1FMZU72E35UA91208 Transmission Reported: Automatic
Year: 2005 Owner Name: Walter Peters
Make: Ford Date of Report: 6/29/2011 2:43 PM
Model: Explorer Mileage Reported: 121000
Engine: V6, 4.0L (244 CID); SOHC Trim Level: XLS; XLS Sport
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:25 PM
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CarMD report Part 2

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CarMD tested your vehicle's system and has discovered the following conditions during its inspection:

Click the image to open in full size. Primary "Check Engine Light" Code
This is the code that caused your "Check Engine" light to turn on and it is the primary code that was used to determine your vehicle's cure
Error Code P0174 This fault code indicates the Fuel System Monitor has detected an error in the vehicle’s Bank 2 fuel trim adjustment program, resulting in an air/fuel mixture that is too “lean.” The vehicle’s computer constantly monitors the air/fuel mixture and adjusts it according to current driving requirements. The vehicle’s computer stores predetermined “reference” values for air/fuel ratio for all possible driving conditions (base fuel trim). If the “actual values” from various sensors do not match the “reference” values for a driving condition, the computer command the proper components to make corrections (fuel trim adjustments). Fuel trim adjustments can be “short term” (STFT) or “long term” (LTFT). For STFT, the vehicle’s computer makes adjustments to the base fuel trim program by adding or subtracting fuel to achieve the optimum air/fuel ratio. For LTFT, the vehicle’s computer makes adjustments to the base fuel trim program based on the average of STFT fuel corrections.
Definition Fuel System Too Lean (Cylinder Bank 2)
Possible Causes: Air leaks after the MAF sensor, or leaks in the PCV system Exhaust leaks before or near where the HO2S is mounted Fuel injector(s) restricted or not supplying enough fuel Fuel system not supplying enough fuel during high fuel demand conditions (e.g., the fuel pump may not supply enough fuel) Leaking EGR gasket, or leaking EGR valve diaphragm MAF sensor dirty (causes PCM to underestimate airflow) Vehicle running out of fuel or engine oil dip stick not seated TSB 1-20-5 contains a repair procedure for this trouble code
Condition For Setting The Code: Engine started, engine running at cruise speed for 3 to 4 minutes, and the PCM detected the Bank 2 Adaptive Fuel Control System reached its rich correction limit (a lean A/F condition).
Technical Service Bulettin (TSB) Available? No


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At times, other codes are set and stored whenever a major problem is detected or when an intermittent problem is discovered by your vehicle’s On Board Diagnostic system. These codes are usually related to why your "Check Engine" light was set. Below are the additional stored codes:
Error Code P0174 This fault code indicates the Fuel System Monitor has detected an error in the vehicle’s Bank 2 fuel trim adjustment program, resulting in an air/fuel mixture that is too “lean.” The vehicle’s computer constantly monitors the air/fuel mixture and adjusts it according to current driving requirements. The vehicle’s computer stores predetermined “reference” values for air/fuel ratio for all possible driving conditions (base fuel trim). If the “actual values” from various sensors do not match the “reference” values for a driving condition, the computer command the proper components to make corrections (fuel trim adjustments). Fuel trim adjustments can be “short term” (STFT) or “long term” (LTFT). For STFT, the vehicle’s computer makes adjustments to the base fuel trim program by adding or subtracting fuel to achieve the optimum air/fuel ratio. For LTFT, the vehicle’s computer makes adjustments to the base fuel trim program based on the average of STFT fuel corrections.
Definition Fuel System Too Lean (Cylinder Bank 2)
Possible Causes: Air leaks after the MAF sensor, or leaks in the PCV system Exhaust leaks before or near where the HO2S is mounted Fuel injector(s) restricted or not supplying enough fuel Fuel system not supplying enough fuel during high fuel demand conditions (e.g., the fuel pump may not supply enough fuel) Leaking EGR gasket, or leaking EGR valve diaphragm MAF sensor dirty (causes PCM to underestimate airflow) Vehicle running out of fuel or engine oil dip stick not seated TSB 1-20-5 contains a repair procedure for this trouble code
Condition For Setting The Code: Engine started, engine running at cruise speed for 3 to 4 minutes, and the PCM detected the Bank 2 Adaptive Fuel Control System reached its rich correction limit (a lean A/F condition).
Technical Service Bulettin (TSB) Available? No

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Error Code P2196
Definition O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich Bank 1 Sensor 1
Technical Service Bulettin (TSB) Available? No


Click the image to open in full size. Secondary Diagnostic Codes
Secondary codes indicate that there was an intermittent problem discovered by your vehicle's On Board Diagnostic system. They are codes that could be affecting your vehicle's performance and /or could potentially set your Check Engine light on.
Error Code P0174 This fault code indicates the Fuel System Monitor has detected an error in the vehicle’s Bank 2 fuel trim adjustment program, resulting in an air/fuel mixture that is too “lean.” The vehicle’s computer constantly monitors the air/fuel mixture and adjusts it according to current driving requirements. The vehicle’s computer stores predetermined “reference” values for air/fuel ratio for all possible driving conditions (base fuel trim). If the “actual values” from various sensors do not match the “reference” values for a driving condition, the computer command the proper components to make corrections (fuel trim adjustments). Fuel trim adjustments can be “short term” (STFT) or “long term” (LTFT). For STFT, the vehicle’s computer makes adjustments to the base fuel trim program by adding or subtracting fuel to achieve the optimum air/fuel ratio. For LTFT, the vehicle’s computer makes adjustments to the base fuel trim program based on the average of STFT fuel corrections.
Definition Fuel System Too Lean (Cylinder Bank 2)
Possible Causes: Air leaks after the MAF sensor, or leaks in the PCV system Exhaust leaks before or near where the HO2S is mounted Fuel injector(s) restricted or not supplying enough fuel Fuel system not supplying enough fuel during high fuel demand conditions (e.g., the fuel pump may not supply enough fuel) Leaking EGR gasket, or leaking EGR valve diaphragm MAF sensor dirty (causes PCM to underestimate airflow) Vehicle running out of fuel or engine oil dip stick not seated TSB 1-20-5 contains a repair procedure for this trouble code
Condition For Setting The Code: Engine started, engine running at cruise speed for 3 to 4 minutes, and the PCM detected the Bank 2 Adaptive Fuel Control System reached its rich correction limit (a lean A/F condition).
Technical Service Bulettin (TSB) Available? No

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Error Code P2196
Definition O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich Bank 1 Sensor 1
Technical Service Bulettin (TSB) Available? No

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Error Code P2195
Definition O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Lean Bank 1 Sensor 1
Technical Service Bulettin (TSB) Available? No
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CarMD report Part 3

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The ABS is an important vehicle safety system which prevents the wheels on your vehicle from locking up (or ceasing to rotate) while braking.
Error Code B1676
Definition Battery Voltage Out Of Range
Possible Causes: Faulty Wiring Faulty Battery
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Error Code U2023
Definition
Click the image to open in full size. Vehicle Monitor Status Information
The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has set guidelines for each U.S. state to follow when conducting an emissions inspection. CarMD follows this criteria to identify if your vehicle is ready for an emissions test. The table below shows all supported Monitors for your vehicle & the test results. Under the EPA guidelines, your vehicle is considered "Ready" or "Not Ready" based on the following Monitor status criteria: (1) All Model Years 1996 to 2000 must have 2 or less Monitors as "Not Complete"; and (2) All Model Years 2001 & newer must have 1 or less Monitor as "Not Complete". If your test results show that your are "Not Ready" because of an incomplete Monitor, you will need to drive your vehicle for several days and run the test again to ensure that your vehicle is ready prior to scheduling an emissions test. Please be advised that an incomplete Monitor does not indicate that you will fail your emissions test. However, you will most likely Fail your emissions test if these outcomes are present: (1) Check Engine light is ON while engine is running; (2) A primary code is present; (3 a vehicle's Check Engine bulb is not working; and (4) a vehicle's DLC connector is missing, tampered, or inoperable. In this instance, your vehicle will require service prior to an inspection.
Monitor Name Monitor Icon Status
MIL (Check Engine Light) Click the image to open in full size. ON
Misfire Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Complete
Fuel System Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Complete
Comprehensive Component Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Complete
Catalyst Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Not complete
Evaporative System Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Not complete
Oxygen Sensor Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Not complete
Oxygen Sensor Heater Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Not complete
EGR System Monitoring Click the image to open in full size. Not complete

Click the image to open in full size. Freeze Frame Data
This is your vehicle's operating condition, which was recorded at the time the failure occurred and the Check Engine light was set. This information is valuable when performing the fix yourself or if you are having a professional technician perform the repair. The theory is to recreate these parameters to ensure that the problem was indeed corrected.
Parameter Description Results
DTC for which Freeze Frame was Stored P0174
Fuel System 1 Status Closed Loop - fault with at least one oxygen sensor
Fuel System 2 Status Not Supported
Calculated LOAD Value 16.86 %
Engine Coolant Temp 167.00 °F
Short Term Fuel Trim - Bank 1 3.13 %
Long Term Fuel Trim - Bank 1 25.00 %
Short Term Fuel Trim - Bank 2 3.13 %
Long Term Fuel Trim - Bank 2 25.00 %
Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure 13.92 inHg
Engine RPM 1,446.25 rpm
Vehicle Speed Sensor 0.00 mph
Ignition Timing Advance #1 Cylinder 17.00 °
Intake Air Temperature 86.00 °F
Air Flow Rate Mass Air Flow Sensor 0.85 lb/min
Absolute Throttle Position 15.29 %
Oxygen Sensor Output Voltage (B1-S1) 0.84 V
Short Term Fuel Trim (B1-S1) -0.78 %
Oxygen Sensor Output Voltage (B1-S2) 0.74 V
Short Term Fuel Trim (B1-S2) 99.22 %
Oxygen Sensor Output Voltage (B2-S1) 0.03 V
Short Term Fuel Trim (B2-S1) -0.78 %
Oxygen Sensor Output Voltage (B2-S2) 0.84 V
Short Term Fuel Trim (B2-S2) 99.22 %
Time Since Engine Start 141 sec
Fuel Rail Pressure relative to Vacuum 38.96 psi
Commanded EGR 0.00 %
EGR Error 0.00 %
Commanded Evaporative Purge 0.00 %
Fuel Level Input 46.27 %
# Warm-ups since DTC Cleared 0
Distance since DTC Cleared 0.62 mi
Evap System Vapor Pressure -32.75 inH20
Barometric Pressure 30.20 inHg
Catalyst Temperature Bank 1 - Sensor 1 1,105.52 °F
Catalyst Temperature Bank 2 - Sensor 1 1,105.52 °F
Misfire Monitor Disabled
Fuel System Monitor Complete
CCM Monitor Not complete
Catalyst Monitor Disabled
Heated Catalyst Monitor Not Supported
EVAP Monitor Disabled
Complete Not Supported
A/C System Monitor Not Supported
O2 Sensor Monitor Not complete
O2 Sensor Heater Monitor Not complete
EGR Monitor Not complete
Control Module Voltage 14.22 V
Absolute Load Value 13.33 %
Commanded Equivalence Ratio 1.00
Relative Throttle Position 1.96 %
Ambient Air Temperature 75.20 °F
Absolute Throttle Position B 16.86 %
Accelerator Pedal Position D 19.61 %
Accelerator Pedal Position E 29.80 %
Accelerator Pedal Position F 18.82 %
Commanded Throttle Actuator 3.14 %
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CarMD report Part 4

Click the image to open in full size. Below are the possible fies) associated with the diagnostic codes retrieved by CarMD. These fixes (or cures) were derived from actual real world repairs taken from qualified ASE Certified Technicians across the U.S. Estimated repair costs are based on parts & labor specific to the actual fix; with parts based on average MSRP and labor based on average National Labor Rates by region.



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Based on technician feedback, this fix offers the highest probability to resolve the problem.
Recommended Fix: Replace Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) Valve and Hose
Parts Required Unit Cost Quantity Total
Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) Valve $19.80 1 19.80
Labor Required
Estimated Labor $79.96 1hrs. $79.96
Miscellaneous

$25.00
Estimated Parts Cost: $19.80
Estimated Repair Shop Cost (Parts + Labor): $124.76


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Other Possible Fixes
These are fixes also found by technicians to solve the problem. However, these have a lower probability resolution.
Recommended Fix: Replace Oxygen Sensor(s) (O2S)
Parts Required Unit Cost Quantity Total
Oxygen Sensor $84.12 1 $84.12
Labor Required
Estimated Labor $79.96 1hrs. $79.96
Miscellaneous

$25.00
Estimated Parts Cost: $84.12
Estimated Repair Shop Cost (Parts + Labor): $189.08
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So...?

So do I need an engine or a head gasket?
Thanks so much for taking the time to read this!
Walter
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No offense, but you can't just plug something into your car and have it tell you what you need to replace. The codes you posted mean very little at this point, as you obviously have a serious engine issue, not just an electrical control issue.

You've had two mechanics tell you that the engine is toast, but you don't seem to want to believe them. At least it seems the Ford dealership did the right thing and tore down the engine to the point needed to make a proper inspection and diagnosis. While it was torn down, you did have them point out why the engine needed to be replaced didn't you?

You said the engine was running very badly when you started it, yet you drove it anyway. You probably seriously overheated the engine and caused further damage. The right thing to do would have been to immediately shut it off and tow it to the repair facility.

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Call it fate, call it an omen, but waiting for the truck to be put back together, I saw an infomercial for CarMD and bought it.
No, it's called advertising, and you fell for it. A computer can't tell you what's wrong with your vehicle. Only a properly trained and experienced mechanic can.

If you can post some pictures of the damaged components we may be able to offer some guidance on what needs to be replaced, but short of that there isn't much anyone can do for you over the internet. The engine needs to be torn down to identify the damaged parts and to determine what is salvageable or what needs to be replaced. I can tell you from experience that if the engine was run to the point that you described in your original posting and indeed you were experiencing a failed head gasket, then it most likely needs at least the heads replaced if not the short block as well. So, in this case, with the limited info you provided, a long block/reman engine replacement is certainly plausible.
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