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Old 02-01-2012, 11:56 AM
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For tunes I already have the DP F6. I would have liked to go to a bigger turbo but 2 weekends ago my stock turbo blew up and I need my truck everyday so the gtp38r was my best bet at the time.
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Back pressure can get insane with the 38R and 250's too just FYI. I'm a believer in having a properly sized turbo to injectors, but thats just me.
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I 2nd this opinion. The trend is such that soon 'stock nozzles' may not be very common. Good tunes should be able to make 238/100's or even 250/200's work fine with a 38R - albeit 'detuned' for that charger. Too bad ya didn't spring for a T4 mount and standard-rotation turbo... Its not much more than 38R and bellowed uppies and soooooo many more options for upgrades!

Bigger nozzles mean more fuel in less time. This gives more time to add fuel BTDC without excessive timing advance. Getting the fuel in there 'early' means lower EGT's and better MPG's. I've spent some time behind the wheel of a truck with 250/200's and a GTX 4294. It drives like a stock truck (even in 'race' tune) and often gets 18+mpg - 4x4 Crew Cab. In 'stock tune' and 'daily driver' (400/450HP?) you really can't make it smoke, but trying to get some black smoke reduces the amount of tread on the tires! Even in the hottest tune, the smoke is gone in 60ft (GTX 4294 )... The owner has also towed 17k lb trailer and reports lower-than-stock EGT's.

I didn't see a tuner mentioned, but I would recommend visiting with a couple of tuners and getting their opinions about injectors. Swamps, Tyrant and Gearhead all have good tunes for big nozzles.

Digging the red/black too! Reps sent! I did black/blue on the dually, but thinking the engine I'm building for the X might look like yours...
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So just curious what is the price diffrence between the 38r conv. vs. GTX4294??

I like the sound of that GTX set up. Cant wait till I get started on my spare. Does anyone know of a good machine shop around the Kansas City area??
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Just trying to take notes here.
So just curious what is the price diffrence between the 38r conv. vs. GTX4294??

I like the sound of that GTX set up. Cant wait till I get started on my spare. Does anyone know of a good machine shop around the Kansas City area??
A gtx is around $2k iirc. And then $1250-1500 for a mount kit.

What kinda machine work do you need done??
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Just to check out the spare motor I bought, and have it bored, decked, etc if need be.
Plan on buiilding that one and swaping it out with my current E99.
Just want to get this stick turbo thing figured out so there are no regrets. I drive mine every day pulling a 14ft enclosed 5-7k. looking to build a 450hp give or take a little. Just need reliability since it is my money maker. MPG wont hurt at all either.
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I have been trying to decide on sticks since June and i still haven't decided yet lol narowed it down some but thats it. Thats a lot of money to put in the wrong direction
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never understood tuning down bigger sticks for a sub par turbo.....if you get the big sticks then go with a proportionate turbo.....if you are not gonna get a bigger turbo then you might as well get the smaller sticks.....jmo....
Money my friend. What after spending on machining, pistons, springs,cam,head studs,sticks, then factor in the wife and there is ya answer
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Money my friend. What after spending on machining, pistons, springs,cam,head studs,sticks, then factor in the wife and there is ya answer
imo....its cheaper to buy what you need up front than to buy what you can afford only to spend more upgrading later......the guys who convert from e99 to late 99 setups i think is nuts.....you can buy an h2e setup with bellowed uppies for the same price minus the intakes.........the wifey saying i thought you already bought a turbo, what do you need another one for.....is what will get you into trouble.....
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I have been trying to decide on sticks since June and i still haven't decided yet lol narowed it down some but thats it. Thats a lot of money to put in the wrong direction

I'm of the "bigger is better" opinion... I would rather have large sticks tuned down than small sticks that are maxed out....or have to upgrade because they were too small.

My end goal is a 500+ HP rig... I plan on buying 250/200's when the time comes. But time will tell.
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imo....its cheaper to buy what you need up front than to buy what you can afford only to spend more upgrading later......the guys who convert from e99 to late 99 setups i think is nuts.....you can buy an h2e setup with bellowed uppies for the same price minus the intakes.........the wifey saying i thought you already bought a turbo, what do you need another one for.....is what will get you into trouble.....
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imo....its cheaper to buy what you need up front than to buy what you can afford only to spend more upgrading later......the guys who convert from e99 to late 99 setups i think is nuts.....you can buy an h2e setup with bellowed uppies for the same price minus the intakes.........the wifey saying i thought you already bought a turbo, what do you need another one for.....is what will get you into trouble.....
Depends on where you live. Some places with smog you can't just throw any turbo you want on and get it registered. And if you look at the intake on the e99 they are very restrictive. Not meant to disagree completely just a fact here in the great state of California b---t.

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imo....its cheaper to buy what you need up front than to buy what you can afford only to spend more upgrading later......the guys who convert from e99 to late 99 setups i think is nuts.....you can buy an h2e setup with bellowed uppies for the same price minus the intakes.........the wifey saying i thought you already bought a turbo, what do you need another one for.....is what will get you into trouble.....
Hey Bill,
Can you point me in the right direction on that H2e setup??? I have a e99 that I am adding to right now, but have a late motor in my building that I plan on rebuilding. I want to put stuff on my running motor right now that I can use on my new motor after it is built. I was thinking of the early to late conversion but would like to know about every option.
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Depends on where you live. Some places with smog you can't just throw any turbo you want on and get it registered. And if you look at the intake on the e99 they are very restrictive. Not meant to disagree completely just a fact here in the great state of California b---t.

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So why cant I upgrade the intakes as well???? Or why wouldnt you??
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Can you point me in the right direction on that H2e setup??? I have a e99 that I am adding to right now, but have a late motor in my building that I plan on rebuilding. I want to put stuff on my running motor right now that I can use on my new motor after it is built. I was thinking of the early to late conversion but would like to know about every option.
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Clay should be able to set you up with a kit. Beans diesel performance also has them. Iirc you will need to update to late 99 plenums. Talk to clay about them. He will set you straight.

The h2e can be modded in the future when you need more air. And the charger can be totally rebuilt. The hypermax kit is pricey but there are other options, Carson staffer makes a reasonable kit too. Just look for a T4i flanged kit.
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So why cant I upgrade the intakes as well???? Or why wouldnt you??
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The whole Cali check thing is bs. Just find some place that's cool with it. Do what you want. If anything it's cake to swap an intake back in for a check. 15 minute job including taking time to text and drink a beer
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I didn't say you can't update the intakes. I just did this myself. Its the turbo type they look for here in california. The 38R is the closest to stock looking out there. The H2 and others are completely different looking, I would love to try them it just won't pass. And it ain't that easy to find a cool guy to do so as stated.
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