Just wondering, if you have a tuned truck, how does the oil look at change time?

On my 7.3, I changed it every 5000 km's, and it looked brand new.

I've been changing it the same on my 6.4, and it's black by the time I circle the block.

Just wondering if tuned trucks are any better at not sooting up the oil.

 

I have about 800 miles on my truck since I tuned it ( I changed the oil just after I tuned it) and the oil is still clean, I suspect since no more regens it should stay that way for a while!

 

Nice.

I like to keep oil clean, the 6.4 makes it impossible.

Can't wait to tune.

 

You can't tell the "quality" of oil by looking at it, period. Unless there is something catastrophically wrong with the engine (blown head gaskets, etc.) and you know what you're looking for, oil looks like oil. You might get a whiff of fuel on a regenning truck, if'n you have a nose like a bloodhound...

Once you start the truck after an oil change it's not going to look new any more, so telling the difference between oil with 30 miles on it 3000 miles on it is next to impossible, save some superhuman/supernatural power one might possess.

If you're truly interested in the quality of your oil $25 will get you a Blackstone oil analysis, so I'd start there. I test both my truck and my buddy's '08 (which is made even easier with a Fumoto valve FYI) to keep a "scientific" eye on things...

 

Ronin is correct, there is absolutely no way to tell the condition of your oil by how dark it appears on the dipstick. This is because the color of the oil has no relationship to the protective qualities of the oil.

I used to drive heavy trucks in my previous job, and we used to go 40,000 miles between oil changes. These trucks took 10 gallons of oil, and the oil looked as black as the tires before 10,000 miles. At 40,000 miles the oil looked much the same, and at that point it was time for a change.

My first truck had 563,000 miles on it when I turned it in.

 

Sure, but it's still nice when it's golden all the time like the 7.3.

 

Ya..... My point was that before I did the delete the oil was black within a couple hundred miles, now it's been 1000 miles and it still looks relatively clean..... Thats all

 

And if you want to keep that oil as sexy as possible for as long as possible, remote/bypass filtration is the way to do it...

There's several companies out there that make great kits (I'm pretty sure that Amsoil is one of them) and I'm for sure gonna go with an OilGuard myself. At over $500, it's a spicy meatball, but just like the AirDogII (which is likewise going on shortly) it's great insurance...

FWIW, YMMV, ad infinitum, ad nauseam!

 

Wow, apparently GM says oil cleaned to 7 micron the engine lasts 7 times longer than the oil cleaned to 40 micron.

 

Just wanted to throw in that - This AM at Dealer for "U joints" (sucks at 43K miles - but another topic) the Service Writer stated that Ford expects these diesels to dump fuel into the oil and stated that 6% is aceptable.
Blackstone - suggests that anything over 1.5% is cause for concern.

 

Incorrect, Blackstone states anything less than 2% fuel dilution is acceptable...

Not sure what Ford says, really don't care either...I'll stick to my DPF-delete with IDP tunes and have Blackstone tell me how it's running...

 

Here is a link to a post I made about my last Blackstone report. The TBD showed 7. Oil right from the can is a 10. This was the first change after a DOC/DPF delete.

http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/6-4...why-i-did.html

 

Ronin....what oil are you running and what are the Blackstone reports looking like as far as your drain intervals? I have read a ton of posts on peoples opinions of what oil they use and why for the 6.4 but I was wondering if others who have DPF/DOC and EGR deleted trucks are using the CJ-4 or CI-4 plus oil in these engines. I was told the CI-4 plus was superior for engine longevity but will it cause problems that I am unaware of?

 

Motorcraft oil and filters, 5K change interval PERIOD, regardless of what the oil analysis says about being able to stretch it out...that's what I'm doing on my '10 F250 and my buddy's '08 F350. He's pushing over 80K miles right now, more than half of those Spartan tuned (mostly 275HP) and between his recent oil analysis and a full inspection and service of his transmission, he's a WAY happy dude. I'm early in the game (13K miles) but I'm hoping the way I run the show when it comes to my truck and it's maintenance that I'll be good to go well into the Zombie Apocalypse...!

 

Any advantages or problems with running the CI-4 Plus oil instead of the CJ-4 in my emissions deleted truck?