Surprising - V10's vs diesels at campground
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Surprising - V10's vs diesels at campground
My wife and I stayed at an Oregon State Park campground while attending a family reunion last weekend. Walking around the campground, I saw only 2 diesel SD's, one V8 gasser, and at least 6 V10's.
That was surprising to me when you consider how many diesels are sold versus the V10. And how "common knowledge" says you "need" a diesel to haul heavy trailers.
That was surprising to me when you consider how many diesels are sold versus the V10. And how "common knowledge" says you "need" a diesel to haul heavy trailers.
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That doesn't surprise me very much at all actually. Most of the PSDs were sold as fleet trucks and more "people" bought the V10 because a lot of people dont want to pay more for diesel, know that diesels are more expensive to work on (in general), and some dont have access to diesel. Most of the people I know who have large trucks, either have a Gas V8 or a V10.
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The fella I camp with has a V10, and in all but extreme cases he can run right with me! (my camper is 7ft longer, with a super slide, so I am sure that helps him some) But his maintanance, is literally changing oil! I cant believe MORE people dont run the V-10, if they insist on Ford!
P.S. My truck is a 6.0, so along with oil, I get FICM, Oil rail plugs, fuel pressure springs, $70 oil changes, $40 fuel filters! I cant believe there is not more ppl runnin V10's!
P.S. My truck is a 6.0, so along with oil, I get FICM, Oil rail plugs, fuel pressure springs, $70 oil changes, $40 fuel filters! I cant believe there is not more ppl runnin V10's!
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That doesn't surprise me very much at all actually. Most of the PSDs were sold as fleet trucks and more "people" bought the V10 because a lot of people dont want to pay more for diesel, know that diesels are more expensive to work on (in general), and some dont have access to diesel. Most of the people I know who have large trucks, either have a Gas V8 or a V10.
"Most PSDs are sold as fleet trucks"???? Thats almost wrong to a point. There might be a whole lot of them sold as fleet trucks, but not "most". In comparison, you're looking at about 80% of all the super duty trucks sold are PSD. The last 12-15% are 5.4s and even fewer are V10s.
I live in D.C. and see a ton of Super duty trucks around every day. I see literally thousands of PSD trucks. Many 5.4 trucks but I've run across only three V10s in the three years I've been here. One at a dealer, one work truck and one parked on base. I had a salesman (personal friend) at a Ford dealer in AZ tell me that for every V10 truck they sold, 9 PSDs were sold before it. He told me it was simply because they "instilled" a sense of reliability in the PSD name. Not that it was actually a good engine or anything else which it may or may not be. They just pushed it as being the best and nothing else was worth having.
Ford dealers tried to force the PSD on people, proclaiming the gas engines are junk and not worth the purchase. They believed it, so did the public after having a salesman assure them they made the best choice in a psd. Sure, it might be a good engine (sub-par when compared to other diesel engines IMHO) but most of the time, its not really required.
That is amazing though, I never see any V10s at campgrounds other than in motorhomes.
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Where do you come up with this stuff?
"Most PSDs are sold as fleet trucks"???? Thats almost wrong to a point. There might be a whole lot of them sold as fleet trucks, but not "most". In comparison, you're looking at about 80% of all the super duty trucks sold are PSD. The last 12-15% are 5.4s and even fewer are V10s.
I live in D.C. and see a ton of Super duty trucks around every day. I see literally thousands of PSD trucks. Many 5.4 trucks but I've run across only three V10s in the three years I've been here. One at a dealer, one work truck and one parked on base. I had a salesman (personal friend) at a Ford dealer in AZ tell me that for every V10 truck they sold, 9 PSDs were sold before it. He told me it was simply because they "instilled" a sense of reliability in the PSD name. Not that it was actually a good engine or anything else which it may or may not be. They just pushed it as being the best and nothing else was worth having.
Ford dealers tried to force the PSD on people, proclaiming the gas engines are junk and not worth the purchase. They believed it, so did the public after having a salesman assure them they made the best choice in a psd. Sure, it might be a good engine (sub-par when compared to other diesel engines IMHO) but most of the time, its not really required.
That is amazing though, I never see any V10s at campgrounds other than in motorhomes.
"Most PSDs are sold as fleet trucks"???? Thats almost wrong to a point. There might be a whole lot of them sold as fleet trucks, but not "most". In comparison, you're looking at about 80% of all the super duty trucks sold are PSD. The last 12-15% are 5.4s and even fewer are V10s.
I live in D.C. and see a ton of Super duty trucks around every day. I see literally thousands of PSD trucks. Many 5.4 trucks but I've run across only three V10s in the three years I've been here. One at a dealer, one work truck and one parked on base. I had a salesman (personal friend) at a Ford dealer in AZ tell me that for every V10 truck they sold, 9 PSDs were sold before it. He told me it was simply because they "instilled" a sense of reliability in the PSD name. Not that it was actually a good engine or anything else which it may or may not be. They just pushed it as being the best and nothing else was worth having.
Ford dealers tried to force the PSD on people, proclaiming the gas engines are junk and not worth the purchase. They believed it, so did the public after having a salesman assure them they made the best choice in a psd. Sure, it might be a good engine (sub-par when compared to other diesel engines IMHO) but most of the time, its not really required.
That is amazing though, I never see any V10s at campgrounds other than in motorhomes.
I know that PSD far outsells the v10 but over here the PSD is almost always in a fleet/contractor/work truck and the personal truck and toy haulers have the v10s. Like I said, thats just here.
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That is pretty surprising. Where I am in MN I would say I see 50 diesels to 1 V10. Most of the people I talk to at campgrounds don't seem to know very much about the V10 and just assume that I made the mistake. Little do they know of the power of the V10, even my '01.....
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Thats because Ford uses the logic I used. They just build many many many more gas motorhomes than diesel, so if you want a diesel motorhome you can get one you just have to look harder or order it new.
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My wife and I stayed at an Oregon State Park campground while attending a family reunion last weekend. Walking around the campground, I saw only 2 diesel SD's, one V8 gasser, and at least 6 V10's.
That was surprising to me when you consider how many diesels are sold versus the V10. And how "common knowledge" says you "need" a diesel to haul heavy trailers.
That was surprising to me when you consider how many diesels are sold versus the V10. And how "common knowledge" says you "need" a diesel to haul heavy trailers.
I usually see many more PSD's than V10's when I am camping, and in my area there are probably 4 times as many PSD's. Not that most people need the diesel, but it is a status symbol around here, kind of like 38" tires and "TapOut" stickers in the back window.