Tundra is a weak,flimsy piece of junk.Their frame bends and rusts. The tailgate fails under load.Not much of a truck.

 

Toyotas and Nissans are LIGHT duty trucks. Not meant for hauling anything but small bed loads and light duty trailers. They are "trucks" with the suburban dad in mind, not really a construction or heavy hauling type truck.

That being said, the Tundra is more "Made in America" than the F-Series trucks are... by roughly 10% if I remember correctly. It aint a bad vehicle, but it's NOT a heavy duty truck.

And Nissans are junk.

 

1. Ford (duh)
2. GM
3. Nissan
10. Chrysler

There is no 4 through 9. Just didn't seem fair to imply that Chrysler trucks are almost as good as Nissan.

Reasons- Ford has lower "life cycle" costs than any other brand, and it does its job well for a long time. That they are integrated into a line of full-size and medium-duties is a plus. Plus for cheap parts and use of the same parts for different models.

If you look at Ford and GM trucks side-by-side, especially older ones, they are mechanically similar in many ways. But GM polishes parts no one will ever see, and simultaneously makes some very important parts without much thought as to how they will wear. Styling a plus, ripping off the US a minus.

Nissan- Reliable, gets the job done at the end of the day, and cheaply. But it can't do what a Ford can do. Minus for gaps in full/medium lineup.

Chrysler- Almost every single part wears through or rusts out 100' from the dealer's lot. They look badass but take off the sheetmetal and it's just two lips with hair around them. And the fuel economy is not a plus.

 

It's a bad vehicle. When the tailgate problems came up, they claimed it's only rated for 200 lbs. What do most owners do, take a running jump to get in the bed? How is that even remotely acceptable?

Then the cams started breaking and taking out engines.

Then the bed bounce

Then the bolted together frame

Then the suspension recall

In 5 years of living in MN, I have yet to see a tundra with a snow plow on it. I've seen everything from wranglers and rangers to f700s with plows on them.

As far as I'm concerned, The tundra is a slightly faster Ridgeline.

 

My mechanic has a plow on his Taundra... says he loves it.

I wouldn't.

 

Anything under 8501 GVWR is by EPA definition light duty. In CA and maybe nationally, 10,000lb GVWR is the definition of light duty for tax and registration. So, as always, one's opinion is the definition. No offense, ToMang07, just a general observation about the internet.

Ford, GM, and Fiat (Dodge/Ram) sell mostly light duty trucks. Real businesses, including construction use plenty of Tacomas, Rangers, and even minivans. Ford's Transit Connect is starting to take over the service market.

Out here, its the suburban mom or dad that is most likely to drive the F-350 diesel, while a real construction business uses the right tool for the job, even if its an old Windstar minivan.

 

We have a windstar here at home and we carried stacks of heavy wood oak, and pine pallets with that thing. That thing was worked hard, too bad the transmission died. Now we use my idi to do the work stuff around the house.

 

Personally I'd own a Chebby before I owned a Dodge or "Toy" truck. At work all the track guys have Fords (4) or Chevys (2)...no Dodges or other brands. The Fords have gotten a bad rap because of the International design issues in past trucks...but the company keeps buying 'em and they keep running 'em. You want to torture test a truck? Hand it over to a railroad and tell 'em to use it. Tires are the only thing...no matter what brand, that don't stand a chance from the get go.No really, tell how you feel about the Chrysler/Fiat truck
I'd like to see a photo of it just for the humor. Being from Arkansas...only the state has plow trucks; and they're just a handful of dump trucks with attachment points up-front. Everyone else uses motor graders, front end loaders or farm tractors if/when it snows. I still remember the first time I went on a plow run with my uncle in Michigan (mid '80s)...he was using a F250 clearing driveways. It was an experience to say the least.

 

pretty sure it says right on the door tag of a tundra that the vehicle is NOT rated for use with a plow..

warrenty gone poof.

 

I believe it also says that on a F-150 and Dodge 1500. (Maybe chebby 1500, too?) And he IS a mechanic, so I'm sure he isn't worried about the warranty.

 

well anyhow the bottom of the list should read

dodge
toyota
nissian


we know fords #1 and chevys #2