Best EGR delete kit for 6.0L?
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Hey guys, Have a 2003 6.0 w/200k on her. she is overheating a lot and I am afraid I may have blown the EGR cooler (again) as I lose coolant out the tailpipe and now considering the delete. This will make the 4th or 5th time I have had this problem.
A lot to digest here. A lot of pro's and cons....whats a guy to do?
A lot to digest here. A lot of pro's and cons....whats a guy to do?
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I didn't say it was. I stated that if the EGR system is this horrible entity I should statistically been SOL considering I'm pushing it well beyond the stock parameters. The same stock parameters that cause the EGR system to supposedly fail all by it's lonesome (which is what would have to be the case to make an EGR delete the full proof fix that people claim that it is).
How many people with the stock EGR system and even running tunes report zero problems on these boards (which is a small sample of the true 6.0 population that we known about, how many are out there that we don't know about?), there are quite a few.
By all accounts, my one sample shouldn't exists by what some people claim about the EGR system. It shouldn't. Modified injectors, bigger turbo, bigger fuel pump, hotter tuning for 508 at the rear wheels, who knos what that is at the flywheel. That's a lot of extra HP for that little ole EGR system to deal with. What are the odds? I must be one lucky SOB.
EGR system delete isn't doing anything about the oil cooler. That still has the potential to break down on you and leave you stranded for awhile. It's fixing the symptom, not the root cause. That would be like taking Lidocain (sp?) for nerve pain.
My analogy was more about common modification that people did and wether or not just because a modification is common if it's actually a good thing to do.
How many people with the stock EGR system and even running tunes report zero problems on these boards (which is a small sample of the true 6.0 population that we known about, how many are out there that we don't know about?), there are quite a few.
By all accounts, my one sample shouldn't exists by what some people claim about the EGR system. It shouldn't. Modified injectors, bigger turbo, bigger fuel pump, hotter tuning for 508 at the rear wheels, who knos what that is at the flywheel. That's a lot of extra HP for that little ole EGR system to deal with. What are the odds? I must be one lucky SOB.
My analogy was more about common modification that people did and wether or not just because a modification is common if it's actually a good thing to do.
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I'm sure they're all about the same. I used the Sinister. It's working fine, and as I recall the Sinister was the most reasonably priced. Keep your cooler in a safe place, just in case. You never know if/when you will need to reinstall it some day. Another good idea is to install a coolant filter.
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That's actually a bit of misinformation that a lot of people have. It's against the law now to remove it. That's federal law regardless if the person has emissions testing in the area. He can still be cited for it and I think it's a few grand of a fine. Now the odds might be low without emissions testing, but that doesn't mean that it isn't against the law. I know people in Dallas have been cited and there isn't diesel emissions testing. As well in Nashville, although there is diesel testing there.
Risk versus very little rewards, but than again I might be an oddity and the others still running their stock coolers are as well.
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and by the way its stock 6.0.. AIRRAID intake CFM+ elbow 4" turbo back had tow haul superchip on whenever heads blew. wasnt aware of all the goodies/necessities for the heads. hince gaskets and studs. but did update egr cooler and oil cooler. not running programmer anymore
With that said, if you do block off the egr and bypass/remove the cooler, leave the actual egr in place and plugged in. It gives a better visual of being operational and also seems to aid in cooling fan operation.
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I hope I don't post any misinformation here... However I am pretty sure I am accurate... But if you do block off your egr and bypass the cooler, my understanding is that you will also need to run an SCT tuner to turn off the check engine light for low egr flow. That is, if you have a 2005 or later 6.0.
That actually depends on a certain strategy that came out after that time period. I can't recall the strategy, but if you have it you will need to get a custom tuner to turn it off, it doesn't have to be SCT, just something that does custom tuning that has the ability to shut off that input.
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That actually depends on a certain strategy that came out after that time period. I can't recall the strategy, but if you have it you will need to get a custom tuner to turn it off, it doesn't have to be SCT, just something that does custom tuning that has the ability to shut off that input.
My question is how do I go about tuning out the egr, and what, if any effect, will that have on other stuff like the fan? What is the cheapest route? Can it be done with Ford's computer?