Drying out the old oil bath air cleaner
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You could look at the impression left on the element ends to see if it is sealing tightly. If it isn't, I'd put a light coat of vaseline on the element ends, then run a bead of silicone sealer around the inside of the housing flanges where the element sits and bolt it together for 24 hrs for the sealer to harden. Open it up and you will have made perfect fitting silicone seals in the housing.
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went out to the shop and looked at the air filter. Very similar to the one posted here, but different dimensions. As far as I can tell, after the mod, the new element should actually rest on the bottom of the original bowl and the top will rest against the bottom of the piece that was just modified.
the preliminary measurments are abou 6.5 inchs inside dia, about 2inches wide filter material and about 10.5 inches total dia. Hight seems to be the only stickler here. Not sure how ro measure it Will reinvestigate it tomorrow. I believe the total hight may have some wigle room because the original part set on a bottom lip in the bowl section. The new mod eliminates that
the preliminary measurments are abou 6.5 inchs inside dia, about 2inches wide filter material and about 10.5 inches total dia. Hight seems to be the only stickler here. Not sure how ro measure it Will reinvestigate it tomorrow. I believe the total hight may have some wigle room because the original part set on a bottom lip in the bowl section. The new mod eliminates that
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I looked at the K&N search and found 2 possible solutions: element # 2640 and element # 2660. Both have an ID of 7.125" and an OD of 9.0 ". The 2640 is 2.25" tall, the 2660 is 2.5" tall. Simply stack two elements to get total height of 4.5", 4.75" or 5". If you are concerned about the stack shifting, make a simple 7" D x 1/4" shorter than the stack height tube of expanded or perforated metal to slide down inside the stack.
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hey Ax,
As usual you are doing your great job helping people out. I really appreciate your help on this and other things .
I will go out to the shop and really look at this situation again. but it sounds like this may be it. Sure would like to rid the oil set up. I will let you know how I make out
JimG 1098
As usual you are doing your great job helping people out. I really appreciate your help on this and other things .
I will go out to the shop and really look at this situation again. but it sounds like this may be it. Sure would like to rid the oil set up. I will let you know how I make out
JimG 1098
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Stacking filter elements is commonly done on desert off road racing and dirt track racing engines to get more filtering area in the dusty conditions where they can't fit a larger diameter element or a single element would plug up too quickly. Cheap chicken wire or hardware cloth can be used to make the liner tube.
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AxRacer and all,
Setled on Fram CA 2788. They came today, performed the mod and these things fit in there like they grew there.
Ax, thanks for thinking outside the box. I stacked the two and there is only 1/4" different in the overall height of the whole unit. Should I silicone sealent inbetween the two filters. The whole unit is tightened down into the housing with no play up or down.
Thanks so much
JimG 1098
Setled on Fram CA 2788. They came today, performed the mod and these things fit in there like they grew there.
Ax, thanks for thinking outside the box. I stacked the two and there is only 1/4" different in the overall height of the whole unit. Should I silicone sealent inbetween the two filters. The whole unit is tightened down into the housing with no play up or down.
Thanks so much
JimG 1098
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"Thinking outside the box". There is none other like this forum for disseminating information and ideas. Sometime all it takes is looking at someones mod and seeing the application in our own projects. O/T, I took an old, cheap foamy breather, an old hubcap and a new fram paper filter and made my own breather. Although not oil bath.
It would be great to see the above "oil bath conversions" in the tricks and tips sticky at the top.
It would be great to see the above "oil bath conversions" in the tricks and tips sticky at the top.
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The oil bath (lower portion) shouldn't be filled up all the way. There's a fill line inside the oil bath container. The only way that the oil would spill over is if the container was filled above and beyond the recommended fill line. The oil inside the container needs to reach slightly above the lower portion of the air cleaner.
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My inside diam was about 6.5 7" The original oil bath had a 5" opening to the carb
The width that the filter could be and still fit into the well of the housing was 9" /the heigtht was about 5 inches. Ax sugested a couple of K&N that might fill the void. Each aplication may be different. Mine was off a 8cyl, 1954 F-750, 279 eng. As you saw, Ax sugested I stach 2 element together to achieve my height. Once you get to the portions of the k&n, or fram or purolator sites, there is usually a option to put you dimensions of what you need and the selection program will furnish you with some options.
If you have any trouble, pm me or put it in the regular post and I will be glad to help you out.
JimG
The width that the filter could be and still fit into the well of the housing was 9" /the heigtht was about 5 inches. Ax sugested a couple of K&N that might fill the void. Each aplication may be different. Mine was off a 8cyl, 1954 F-750, 279 eng. As you saw, Ax sugested I stach 2 element together to achieve my height. Once you get to the portions of the k&n, or fram or purolator sites, there is usually a option to put you dimensions of what you need and the selection program will furnish you with some options.
If you have any trouble, pm me or put it in the regular post and I will be glad to help you out.
JimG