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Old 04-25-2011, 10:09 PM
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Your Picture looks like a 61 to 65 F100 four wheel drive frame as i state? What are you disagreing on? As i sure dont know.

My post above is quite coherent with exception of the 65 in stead of 66 typo. It should have been 66 when the major changes took place. Where do i send the cookie?

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Hey man not trying to be a typing or grammer **** here but when you change a year by one # as you did with your typo then your information will be completely wrong. As I stated with your typo you were correct when talking about the 65 two wheel drive as that was the change over from straight to twin I beam axles. Ill take the cookie and you keep the grapes ok. They are sour anyway.
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Old 04-25-2011, 10:31 PM
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Hey c87b I was looking at your pic. It looks like the rear motor mounts are shot. You are also missing a cover on the bottom of your bellhousing. Your front crossmember between the frame rails is missing a factory installed riveted part for the front motor mount. It looks like the PO has fabbed up a part to take its place. It does not look very secure and looks like it could be moving around. Your pic of that front cross has me wondering if that truck was originaly a 6 that po changed to a V8. I would have thought that the 6s of that vintage used that front mount to so Im not sure what you have going on there. I would say you need to get that front motor mount corrected and the larger timing cover you have on that 390 should work on your 360. refer back to the first pic I posted of the frame of my 63 and you will see the factory part on the front cross im talking about.
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Hey C87B if you like I will take a close up pic of that front frame crossmember factory motor mount. If you have some welding skills it doesnt look like it would be very hard to make one as good if not better than factory. Got to get some good weather here first been raining all day and tonight too. If you dont weld with some measuring a welding shop ought to be able to make a mount you could bolt on there it would be better than that straight piece that is there now.
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Some good detailed pics would help a lot if you don't mind I noticed the rear mounts are in bad shape to does anybody carry these like LMC Dennis carpenter ect and does anyone have a part # or link to them
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Im unsure on the rear mounts I havent got that far on my truck. It was a pretty common motor mount so I assume that they are being repoped. As soon as the weather turns nice agian Ill take a few pics of that mount. If you decide to have one made Ill get some measure ments. You might be able to find a V8 truck 61-64 that you can get that part from. You would just have to drill or cut the rivets and then bolt it to your application.
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Add the second cross member similar to the F100 4x4 Shown, this will be stronger than adding a section to the front member on the F250. A must if you plan on doing any wheeling with the truck.

Use any 34" frame width trans mount. Add the correct two piece round puck.

C3TZ-6068 D upper front
C1TT-6A061-C Lower front.

Rear will use The same upper as the front and same lower. These are DC numbers and the pieces are 10.00 bucks each total of 3 upper and lower needed.

If you need T case mounts these are similar enough to work.
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Add the second cross member similar to the F100 4x4 Shown, this will be stronger than adding a section to the front member on the F250. A must if you plan on doing any wheeling with the truck.

Use any 34" frame width trans mount. Add the correct two piece round puck.

C3TZ-6068 D upper front
C1TT-6A061-C Lower front.

Rear will use The same upper as the front and same lower. These are DC numbers and the pieces are 10.00 bucks each total of 3 upper and lower needed.

If you need T case mounts these are similar enough to work.
Transfer Case Mounts, Black

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So the best way to mount this motor would be to add the second crossmember that sits directly under the front of the timing cover? And scratch the idea of the plate that extends to the front crossmember? Does anyone know where I can find the second crossmember the only trucks I know of around me are for sale not for parts maybe it would be easier making one? Also the 2 part #'s you listed is what I will need to bolt the motor in I just order 3 of them 2 for the bellhousing and 1 for the front is this correct?
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Hey C87B Garbz answer sounds like a good way to go. Let me know if you still want to see how that front crossmember is done on the 63. Ill gladly post up a pic with measurements if you decide to go that way. Let me know what you end up doing Id be interested to see how you get it set up.
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I'm thinking I might make a second crossmember under the motor any chance you could get some pics and measurements of it? Width height and location back from the front member if I go this route will I still need the timing cover off of the 390? I don't want to swap.covers if I dont have to
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Check out Buzz44's project thread for his 65 F100 4x4. It has some good shots of the front mount set up on his 352( same FE engine family as the 390 ) .

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/10...d-project.html
ok check out the link to my restoration photos that will have good pics of the crossmember on the frame that my 65 used from the factory. The timing chain cover that is in the pictures that you posted is the one you will have to use. Unless your 71 has the same cover which is doubtful. If that is the cossmember you want to duplicate I will get some measuring done for you. Let me know.
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Use any ford 65 up 2 wheel drive transmission mount. The frames are all a basic 34 inches. Bolt it to the bottom rail. It may need slight modification where the hole needs to be and may need some sanding on the lower rubber.

Cross member under the engine May intersect with the live front axle. Hence the front mount and the bell mounts. Later trucks use a off the inside of the frame perch.

The front cover and bracket will be only found in 65 66 four wheel drives with this system and 350s. watch out for FTs as they used this type mount in larger trucks and will have a larger crank snout seal.

Yes, you need 3 upper and three lower. New bolts should be 5/8 24 of appropriate length with self locking nuts.
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Sorry its been alittle while since I got to update been busy with other projects I got around to doing some measuring of the trans that's in the 64 not sure what kind I have but I was going to swap in my 360 and np435 trans but it looks like the 435 has about 3" longer length when measured from the front of trans where it bolts to bellhousing to the face of the rear yoke and my slip driveshaft won't have enough room to shorten enough I really want to use the np and 360 as they worked good together no grinding or anything like the 390 and mated trans does any ideas
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