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Yeah, when I blast I'll blow a fan over the air tank to cool it down a little and leave the drain open just a whisker so the shaking of the compressor will coax all the water out. I've also shimmed my compressor (horizontal) to pitch it 2 inches toward the drain. One trap on the compressor output and another cyclone dryer on the blaster. Dry is key, I was thinking of using a coil of copper pipe in a bucket of water to extract even a little more. Tap water temp being 55 degrees, that'd work great on an 80 degree day.
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Just to be clear, none of this stuff is healthy. Dust and debris from Black Beauty-type materials are just as deadly as silica. Perhaps you noticed where it said it is a coal slag product? I'm assuming you eastern guys have heard of 'Black Lung?' Bottom line is, be careful when using any of these products and use the proper safety equipment. Eyes, lungs, and body. You don't have to be afraid of these products and materials, (and I'll include paint for this discussion, as well) but you should treat them with respect.
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... You don't have to be afraid of these products and materials, (and I'll include paint for this discussion, as well) but you should treat them with respect.
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I have the same pot as the one you are using. I use Black Diamond in it. I get it at Tractor Supply. It works better than sand and less dust.I have 2 water separators on the pot. After I installed them, I don't have problems with clogging anymore. The bottom valve is about half open and the top valve is wide open. Use the largest nozzle you can use and still maintain 75-80 PSI at the pot. I have run many, many bags of Black diamond and the pot works great.
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You're definitely right. Trust me, I deal with black lung in one way or other every day. I take care of a lot of guys with silicosis too around here (usually highwall drill operators). As a matter of fact, I've got one hooked up to oxygen and an IV right now.

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I have the same pot as the one you are using. I use Black Diamond in it. I get it at Tractor Supply. It works better than sand and less dust.I have 2 water separators on the pot. After I installed them, I don't have problems with clogging anymore. The bottom valve is about half open and the top valve is wide open. Use the largest nozzle you can use and still maintain 75-80 PSI at the pot. I have run many, many bags of Black diamond and the pot works great.
When you say you have 2 water separators on the pot, are you meaning you have 2 mounted in sequence on the incoming line before it splits? I'm just glad to hear that there is hope for this thing and the operator is the problem (I'm starting to recognize a trend there ).
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You're definitely right. Trust me, I deal with black lung in one way or other every day. I take care of a lot of guys with silicosis too around here (usually highwall drill operators). As a matter of fact, I've got one hooked up to oxygen and an IV right now.

Most of the men in my family look like this guy at the end of the day.
Yeah, I salvaged a used air mask from the fire department, attached it to an oilless compressor and use that for fresh air however wrong that might be. Keeps the dust outta my nose.
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Havre blasted tons of sand and parts . 3 main points .

1 . Media MUST be dry !!!
2 . If media will not pass thru window screen , it will not pass thru blaster.
3. Air /sand ratio is most important .

Get sand from a ridge by the rail tracks .Pure white sugar sand . Spread out to dry , sift over a large container with a frame work made out of metal window screen , store inside and blast away when needed .Plenty of sand here in Fla.
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how much CFM is your compressor putting out ? to small of a compressor and you can only open the valve just a little ! i have used lots of silica sand from Home Depot and had good results on equipment , but always wore a good mask , not those cheap dust masks that you get 5 or 8 for a few bucks !
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I've got that upright 60 gallon Ingersoll Rand compressor that Tractor Supply sells. I think it's 11.3 CFM. I know, I probably need one even bigger than that. I'm gonna have to stop and let it catch up quite a bit. Which brings up another point--I probably should shut that sand valve off completely during rest periods so that a ton of sand doesn't trickle down and clog the pipe. I'm realizing I made just about every mistake possible yesterday. LOL. But hey, maybe somebody else will read this and learn something too.
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I've got that upright 60 gallon Ingersoll Rand compressor that Tractor Supply sells. I think it's 11.3 CFM. I know, I probably need one even bigger than that. I'm gonna have to stop and let it catch up quite a bit. Which brings up another point--I probably should shut that sand valve off completely during rest periods so that a ton of sand doesn't trickle down and clog the pipe. I'm realizing I made just about every mistake possible yesterday. LOL. But hey, maybe somebody else will read this and learn something too.
once I get the media valve set, I don't fiddle with it. its hard enough the set once!.

you can shut the air valve into the tank.,.

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When you say you have 2 water separators on the pot, are you meaning you have 2 mounted in sequence on the incoming line before it splits? I'm just glad to hear that there is hope for this thing and the operator is the problem (I'm starting to recognize a trend there ).
Yes, I have 2 separators, in series, in the incoming air line. I never have to screen the Black Diamond. Dump it in and GO. Leave the valve on the bottom alone when you shut down, just shut the air off. It will take a few seconds to bleed down and you will spray out some sand, but it is much easier than messing with everything. When you start back up, it will take a few seconds for the sand to start flowing again.
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I am very pleased with the purchase about 3 years ago of a 7 1/2 hp IR 2 stage compressor. I previously used a Smith Gordan conversion setup for a Model A or B short block. It compresses on #2 and #3 and fires on #1 and #4. Since the Model A is about 40 hp, I figured that I had about a 20 hp gas air compressor. The IR is about equal to the old Smith Gordan setup for air delivery.
For continuous running of a sandblaster, I find that the 7 1/2 hp 2 stage IR is the right size.
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