Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 04-16-2011, 03:44 AM
fordcaver91 fordcaver91 is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 48
fordcaver91 is starting off with a positive reputation.
302 to 300-6 covert. with other mods. Please Help.

Ok i just got a ex-cab short bed ford f150 4x4. It has whats left of a 302 in it and i'm swapping it out for a 300-6 out of a 91 f150. Heres what i know: I need a flywheel for the 300-6. The wire harness and computer from the 300-6. The motor mounts, radiator, and whatnots.

So what else will i need? I've heard talk about putting 19# injectors on it... what all do i need to do to go about that? Also how do i go about getting rid of the egr smog pump BS?? Does anyone know how to convert the r12 system to r134a?

Thanks for all the help.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-16-2011, 04:44 AM
TexasGuy001 TexasGuy001 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 9,381
TexasGuy001 has a very good reputation on FTE.TexasGuy001 has a very good reputation on FTE.TexasGuy001 has a very good reputation on FTE.TexasGuy001 has a very good reputation on FTE.
The 19 lb injectors are too big for a stock 300.
__________________
2002 Ford Ranger Extended Cab Flareside 3.0 V6 Automatic 3.73
1965 Mustang 302 T5
Fix It Up Don't %$@# It Up
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-16-2011, 10:18 AM
Conanski's Avatar
Conanski Conanski is online now
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 20,243
Conanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud of
First thing.... what year is the "new" truck and what transmission does it have?
It would be easier to put a 5.8 in this truck but if the 300 is what you got and you don't mind some extra work then go with it. You don't need to change the wiring harness simply leave two injectors wires(one from each bank) disconnected and plug in the I6 computer, you may have to lengthen some wires or at least pull them out of the loom but otherwise it's all there. Swapping the engine harness isn't as easy as you might think, the engine portion from different years are not interchangable at all and even those from the same year for different engines can have differences. You will need to remove the V8 engine mounts and frame towers(which are riveted on), and install I6 frame towers and engine mounts. You need an I6 flywheel/flexplate that matches whatever transmission the truck has and an I6 rad and hoses. For your own sanity don't worry about deleting/modifying stuff yes, first get the motor in and running correctly and then go back and remove whatever you like. The computer you need is one that matches the powertrain combo in the new truck so you need to find out exactly what each truck currently has, it not sufficient to say they both have automatics or even overdrive automatics because there are at least 4 different auto transmissions that could be in either truck and each one requires a different computer. And of course the exhaust system is totally different for these engines so that has to be swapped or modified too.
__________________
Paul (Conan) O'Brien

1990 5.0HO AOD XLT X-Cab F150 3.55LS, 1994 3.0L 5-sp x-cab Ranger 3.45, 2004 3.0L 5-sp X-cab Ranger Edge 4.10, 2004 2.5L 5-spd Subaru Legacy
1996 Kawasaki ZX11D, 2004 Honda 599, 2008 Kawasaki KLR650
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-16-2011, 02:03 PM
fordcaver91 fordcaver91 is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 48
fordcaver91 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Well the 300-6 is out of a 91 f150 2wd automatic overdrive.Its the 18 bolt pan so its either an A4LD, 4R45E, or 4R55E. its going in a 89 f150 4wd manual 4 speed.((Borg Warner 13-01-065-907)don't really kow what it it.) There is one concern though.. The 89 thats has the 302 had cruise control and the 91 300-6 doees not. is this going to be a problem? would i need a computer of a 300 that had cruise control?
thanks for all the help.

Last edited by fordcaver91; 04-17-2011 at 02:48 AM. Reason: updating
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-16-2011, 02:14 PM
xc4jokestomper xc4jokestomper is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleston
Posts: 1,036
xc4jokestomper is starting off with a positive reputation.
i wouldnt recommend a 302 in that truck let alone a 300. ive talked to conanski about my truck in my sig and the 302 is way underpowered for this big of a truck and i hate it in mine. 351 is a direct swap basically. conanski here has the same truck as us and he told me that he got better gas mileage out of his 351 in it than he did the 302. but ill let him talk you into since he knows way more than me lol.
__________________
1995 F150 Supercab Flareside: 302ci, 4r70w, 4x4, 3.55ls, 3rd owner, 100k miles

Current mods: 31x10.5, rear roll pan, Smoked Headlights, FM 40 si/do, Superlift leveling kit,

Future mods: shift kit, true duals, 8k hid's, DIY tonneau cover, Electric fan
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-16-2011, 02:18 PM
fordcaver91 fordcaver91 is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 48
fordcaver91 is starting off with a positive reputation.
The 300-6 is what i have and it was free to me so its the best route for me.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-16-2011, 02:23 PM
xc4jokestomper xc4jokestomper is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleston
Posts: 1,036
xc4jokestomper is starting off with a positive reputation.
I can understand that. What was wrong with the 302? Always scrap it or part it out for extra cash to finish it
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-16-2011, 03:09 PM
Ford_Six's Avatar
Ford_Six Ford_Six is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Washington
Posts: 16,376
Ford_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputationFord_Six has a superb reputation
I swapped from a worn out 351w to a built 300-6 in an 84, it was a huge improvement. I would suggest a donor truck. It'll probably be cheaper than buying all the individual bits from a junkyard.
__________________
Jared
Real trucks have the key on the left
FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-16-2011, 03:11 PM
fordcaver91 fordcaver91 is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 48
fordcaver91 is starting off with a positive reputation.
i got the truck and the motor was half way taken apart.. so i decided just to go with the pulling power from the 300 and do a swap. all that was really left of the 302 was the block and 1 head. they said it was getting harder and harder to start till it didnt start anymore. so they tore it apart. and then i got it.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-17-2011, 09:39 PM
fordcaver91 fordcaver91 is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 48
fordcaver91 is starting off with a positive reputation.
does anyone know how to convert the a/c to r134a?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-17-2011, 11:52 PM
Conanski's Avatar
Conanski Conanski is online now
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 20,243
Conanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud ofConanski has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by fordcaver91 View Post
Well the 300-6 is out of a 91 f150 2wd automatic overdrive.Its the 18 bolt pan so its either an A4LD, 4R45E, or 4R55E. its going in a 89 f150 4wd manual 4 speed.((Borg Warner 13-01-065-907)don't really kow what it it.)
Check the trans codes on the drivers door pillar and post it up, if you have an AOD you can use the computer but if it's the E4OD or 4R70w you can't.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fordcaver91 View Post
There is one concern though.. The 89 thats has the 302 had cruise control and the 91 300-6 doees not. is this going to be a problem?
No, cruise is a stand-alone type thing(not linked to the engine computer) so it won't be affected by the engine swap.
__________________
Paul (Conan) O'Brien

1990 5.0HO AOD XLT X-Cab F150 3.55LS, 1994 3.0L 5-sp x-cab Ranger 3.45, 2004 3.0L 5-sp X-cab Ranger Edge 4.10, 2004 2.5L 5-spd Subaru Legacy
1996 Kawasaki ZX11D, 2004 Honda 599, 2008 Kawasaki KLR650
Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2011, 11:52 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks

Tags
1301065907, 300, 302, 4r45e, bolt, borg, ford, mods, trans, warner

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup