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Old 04-11-2011, 09:03 PM
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F and E series parts interchange

Not sure if this belongs in the E-series forum, but it concerns F-series trucks too...

Thinking about buying an E-series truck from 1975 to 1996 (so I can get it with the 4.9) to use for my fuel injector sales business. My best chance to get a good deal is to get something that's a "rebuildable" from an auction. I don't really see too many E-series trucks at salvage yards, so I'm wondering how easy it is to use F-series parts in the vans. Also, since It's pretty hard to find stick-shift vans, I'm trying to figure out how easy it would be to install an M5OD in a van that came with an automatic trans from the factory, using pickup parts (my friend has 6 of these trans' and is looking to get rid of them). Should I just use an F150 with a really tall cap? Any thoughts?
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I'd post the question in both forums for more exposure.

And why do you have a Chrysler avatar on a Ford site? Your brave lol!
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Thanks, I am brave. But I hate Chrysler. Look carefully and you'll see the logo is upside down and red, forming a pentagram. It's a play on the corporate logo. I seriously believe the average American would be better off had Chrysler never existed. I work at a salvage yard, and of all the vehicles in it that are not there because of a total-loss collision, many have 300,000+ miles. Most have at least 200,000 when they're junked. I don't think the yard has a single Chrysler with over 150,000 miles, 'nuff said. Myself and even the Mexicans avoid working on them because pulling a simple part like a distributor can take hours, and that's when you can just break stuff that's in your way. Basically, Chrysler autos are just a pile of government-subsidized scrap metal with wheels bolted on.

Also, ever notice how often you see a Dodge truck and the driver is either an *******, a creep, or someone with a short-guy personality?

That's my rant. In conclusion, Ford is the best, and the only truck I will ever buy, new or used.
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Thanks, I am brave. But I hate Chrysler. Look carefully and you'll see the logo is upside down and red, forming a pentagram. It's a play on the corporate logo. I seriously believe the average American would be better off had Chrysler never existed. I work at a salvage yard, and of all the vehicles in it that are not there because of a total-loss collision, many have 300,000+ miles. Most have at least 200,000 when they're junked. I don't think the yard has a single Chrysler with over 150,000 miles, 'nuff said. Myself and even the Mexicans avoid working on them because pulling a simple part like a distributor can take hours, and that's when you can just break stuff that's in your way. Basically, Chrysler autos are just a pile of government-subsidized scrap metal with wheels bolted on.

Also, ever notice how often you see a Dodge truck and the driver is either an *******, a creep, or someone with a short-guy personality?

That's my rant. In conclusion, Ford is the best, and the only truck I will ever buy, new or used.
HAHA Ok, I noticed it was upside down and looked odd

So, anyways...Besides the trans, what other parts are you looking to interchange? I'd say for the most part the suspensions should be interchangeable along with quite a few other odds and ends.
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glad you explained that i just kept lookin at it couldnt figure out why it looked funny.
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The engines and transmissions in Ford E and F series trucks are idential, but beyond that the parts are just similar. For example both 1/2 ton versions use the 8.8 axle but because the frame rails are spaced further apart on the vans the spring perches are also further apart, so the axles won't interchange.
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Driveshaft length, shifter, and transmission crossmember would probably cause problems, I imagine, but wouldn't make it impossible. It would be easy to get done with some spare time. I've seen 4 speed vans out there, but they're definitly a rarity compared to the number of automatic vans. I'd rather keep it auto, personally. It's always been my philosophy to keep an automatic, automatic, and keep a manual, manual.

Are you looking to put something together that will be more-or-less a commuter, racking up like 20,000 miles/year? Or just something to promote the business that stands out?
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Thanks, I am brave. But I hate Chrysler. Look carefully and you'll see the logo is upside down and red, forming a pentagram. It's a play on the corporate logo. I seriously believe the average American would be better off had Chrysler never existed. I work at a salvage yard, and of all the vehicles in it that are not there because of a total-loss collision, many have 300,000+ miles. Most have at least 200,000 when they're junked. I don't think the yard has a single Chrysler with over 150,000 miles, 'nuff said. Myself and even the Mexicans avoid working on them because pulling a simple part like a distributor can take hours, and that's when you can just break stuff that's in your way. Basically, Chrysler autos are just a pile of government-subsidized scrap metal with wheels bolted on.

Also, ever notice how often you see a Dodge truck and the driver is either an *******, a creep, or someone with a short-guy personality?

That's my rant. In conclusion, Ford is the best, and the only truck I will ever buy, new or used.
You work in a salvage yard don't know this?
Guess what? My other truck is a Dodge.
I've been loyal to Dodge trucks for the past four trucks. They've all been good to me. When I traded in my last one, it had 185,000 miles. It ran like new. It was a 5 speed, and had the same clutch as when I bought it new, and the clutch had no signs of slipping. I had to do nothing to the suspension. Brakes made it to 135,000. Only bad part was paint and body because I use it like a truck.
I now have a Ford truck and Love it. Parts are cheaper, and easier to come by (especially in salvage yards) The truck is easier to fix (I mean this in a good way.)
But, I won't dog pile on my Dodge trucks. They've been good to me.
How do you feel about foreign trucks? Nissan, Toyota, Honda, etc.?
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Xclimation: I'm glad Dodge seems to work well for you. As far as the foreign trucks, I actually like them quite a bit, especially since they're just as "USA made" as the "domestic" brands. My only beef with them is that they only come in one size and are not integrated with a line of commercial trucks (ie there is no Tundra 2500 like there is a Ford F250, 350, etc). The parts for them seem to interchange fairly well with car parts, too, making them cheaper to own when they get old.

Not to digress from my van question, though, I plan to use this hypothetical van to drive about 200 miles a day but only one day a week. Otherwise just a few local trips. I would want it to be presentable, but certainly not an advertisement for my business. Since auto part customers (my market) usually like vintage, I was thinking a Falcon van, but those are definitely out of my price range.

Thank you Conanski, that was the answer I'm looking for. The fuel tanks would be different because of the different frame, I'm assuming. Are the frame rails further apart because vans have a higher center of gravity than pickups? Are the vans wired at all like the pickups?
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I just sold my 2001 f350, 4X4, and bought a 1996 2X4 XLT. Can anyone tell me if the seats from the 2001 will fit in a 1996? My wife loved the 2001, but I couldn't afford to keep it in diesel fuel, and the wife doesn't like the way the 1996 seats recline. Matter of fact that 2001 was the most comfortable truck I ever drove, from new Peterbilts right on down. I hated to part with it, but times are tough.
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Not a whole lot interchanges between vans and trucks. This questions comes up every now and then in the van forum.


Standard vans do exist, but good luck finding 'em. They were only made till 1990.

Vans had the 3 speed on the column,
4 speed OD top loader
NP435
And the M5OD. The NP435 and M5OD the shifter went through the doghouse, while the 4 speed OD, the shifter was right beside the drivers seat.

75-91 vans are pretty easy finding with a 300 6cyl, but the 92-96 with a 300 are quite rare.


Heres a few pics for those of you whos never seen a standard van.

78 E100 tree speed.
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79 E100 NP435
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1980 E150 4 speed OD
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1990 E150 M5OD
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