Crossmember installation - Can anyone offer suggestions?
#76
#77
Engine with frame in pic:
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0199.jpg"></img>
The F100 central crossmember:
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0200.jpg"></img>
Currently sitting in frame
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0201.jpg"></img>
Engine in f100
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0202.jpg"></img>
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0199.jpg"></img>
The F100 central crossmember:
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0200.jpg"></img>
Currently sitting in frame
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0201.jpg"></img>
Engine in f100
<img src="http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/jabontke/56%20F100/img_0202.jpg"></img>
What year 302 is that? I am looking at the exhaust manifolds specifically. Trying to get some to fit my 1950 F3 with a 302 and Toyota PS. I got some blockhugger headers from Speedway, but the fit is a little close to the box, even when I shift it over more towards passenger side.
Randy
#78
Hi Mike I'm wondering about your exhaust system.I'm not sure what motor you are running but I have SBF 351w in my 50 F1 with toyota gear box (currently installing).Crossmember in place and welded I can't find a header that will clear toyota box.Can you send photo and year of your exhaust manifolds thanks.
Also I'm not sure if cab mount is same on your F3 or what other stuff is different?
Also I'm not sure if cab mount is same on your F3 or what other stuff is different?
I am interested as well...
Randy
#79
The 302 I have is from a 98 Explorer. It has the GT40P heads and the headers are unique to the heads because the spark plug angle is changed, thus requiring unique headers.
I think that the 97 1/4 and previous 302 engines should have the standard headers that should fit most 302 heads (not 100% on all heads). I know the 86-93 mustang had some short block hugging headers and you can get aftermarket replacements that are short and flow better for cheap.
Here is a pic:
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...SM-70-1067.jpg
I hope that helps.
I think that the 97 1/4 and previous 302 engines should have the standard headers that should fit most 302 heads (not 100% on all heads). I know the 86-93 mustang had some short block hugging headers and you can get aftermarket replacements that are short and flow better for cheap.
Here is a pic:
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...SM-70-1067.jpg
I hope that helps.
#80
Im getting ready to install the same motor mount bar and the tubular trans mount bar you showed, But Im doing this in a 46 ford truck. Ive got alot of good ideas and advice by reading this. I'll try to put some pics up and if I come across any helpfull advice I'll post that also. Thanks Scott
#81
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And to catch everyone up, its a 1998 explorer 5.0L engine. I measured a tonne to be sure this was as square as possible.
The mounts on the cross member look off center, but they are correct. I learned that the form 302 has off set engine mounts. I measured the frame many times to be sure I was mounting everything squared and centered. All checks out. As it sits, I am +1.5 degrees from being dead level with the frame. Something I can adjust for with the trans mount.
I double checked the axel movement and it is taking a trajectory between the oil pan and cross member. It believe will hit the bump stops before the pan. Cross my fingers.
The mounts on the cross member look off center, but they are correct. I learned that the form 302 has off set engine mounts. I measured the frame many times to be sure I was mounting everything squared and centered. All checks out. As it sits, I am +1.5 degrees from being dead level with the frame. Something I can adjust for with the trans mount.
I double checked the axel movement and it is taking a trajectory between the oil pan and cross member. It believe will hit the bump stops before the pan. Cross my fingers.
#83
Sorry to revive a old thread - but how come you didn't bolt the cross member towards the top of the frame? Rather than the bottom of the frame? I have the same cross member that I'm about to install, and I planned on putting the cross member towards the top of the frame, for clearance reasons. (from the front axle to pan)
Thank you
Thank you
#84
Sorry to revive a old thread - but how come you didn't bolt the cross member towards the top of the frame? Rather than the bottom of the frame? I have the same cross member that I'm about to install, and I planned on putting the cross member towards the top of the frame, for clearance reasons. (from the front axle to pan)
Thank you
Thank you
#85
I'll 2nd keeping the engine as close to the fire wall as possible. Mine is but weight on the front axle is 2500 and only 1200 on the rear (this may increase a bit when I get the bed installed). Traction is horrible so I'm adding posi trac. Anything to help the weight distribution will help.
#86
Thanks for the info. I plan on dropping a 302 and C4 in mine. The C4 is a bit smaller than the 4r70w you installed so I'm thinking I should be fine. I actually got the same f100central cross member you have. I want to put a SIDS drop axle in, and lower the front down 2 to 3". Hopefully I can make it work, and still have plenty of suspension travel.
#87
Thanks for the info. I plan on dropping a 302 and C4 in mine. The C4 is a bit smaller than the 4r70w you installed so I'm thinking I should be fine. I actually got the same f100central cross member you have. I want to put a SIDS drop axle in, and lower the front down 2 to 3". Hopefully I can make it work, and still have plenty of suspension travel.
#89
Yes, the cross member is installed. I have gone through the front suspension replacing bushings in the leaf springs, cleaned up the drag link (blasted and painted), new tire rod ends, PMT 3" drop axle, new king pins, blasted an painted almost every part on the front, 11" disc conversion, just got in new front u-bolts. I hope to put it all together this weekend and have something i can turn with the steering wheel. I still need to add fluid to the steering box, hopefully its not too work out. And i can check my camber and ride height. then i can set the rear pinion angle and weld up the axle mounts. Its a slow, slow process, but that's what I can do with my budget. Next is the brake system.
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