56 Ford F100 master cylinder rebuild
#16
I glad you got it together. For anyone searching, here is an exploded diagram of the master cylinder.
I highly recommend getting this parts book.
1948-56 Ford Truck Master Parts Catalog CD - HiPo Parts Garage
It's only $20 and well worth the money just to look at the cool pictures, let alone how helpful it can be putting parts back together.
I highly recommend getting this parts book.
1948-56 Ford Truck Master Parts Catalog CD - HiPo Parts Garage
It's only $20 and well worth the money just to look at the cool pictures, let alone how helpful it can be putting parts back together.
Can someone tell me from this picture what part# is the residual pressure valve??
Thanks in advance
#17
Hi Jim,
The part number of the valve would be (if I am reading my copy of the parts book correctly) is 91A 2178-A. If not hopefully someone will chime in and correct me.
I forgot I started this thread.I eventually had to replace the master cylinder I rebuilt because it started leaking again. I went with one from NAPA. It is a single cylinder, and I should of replaced it with a double.
The part number of the valve would be (if I am reading my copy of the parts book correctly) is 91A 2178-A. If not hopefully someone will chime in and correct me.
I forgot I started this thread.I eventually had to replace the master cylinder I rebuilt because it started leaking again. I went with one from NAPA. It is a single cylinder, and I should of replaced it with a double.
#18
I am actually replacing my single Mc for a 67-68 mustang dual manual mc and some says it needs thebtrasidual valve and some.says it doesn't. The.new one has no residual valves at the ports so. So I just wanted to make sure there was a check valve in the old system.
Now the question is.......is there a check valve inside the new cylinder or.do I haveto go for inline.valves???
Now the question is.......is there a check valve inside the new cylinder or.do I haveto go for inline.valves???
#19
I am actually replacing my single Mc for a 67-68 mustang dual manual mc and some says it needs thebtrasidual valve and some.says it doesn't. The.new one has no residual valves at the ports so. So I just wanted to make sure there was a check valve in the old system.
Now the question is.......is there a check valve inside the new cylinder or.do I haveto go for inline.valves???
Now the question is.......is there a check valve inside the new cylinder or.do I haveto go for inline.valves???
#20
Thanks Hooler
I made some digging last night and it appears like that old Master cylinders where equipped the way you decribes, however is seems like if one buys a part replacement or new aftermarket replacement then the residual pressure valve is mostly replaced with a hard machined inverted flare and then the port residual valves is no longer possible to add. Then one haveto go for a set of inline valves.......
Bummer
I made some digging last night and it appears like that old Master cylinders where equipped the way you decribes, however is seems like if one buys a part replacement or new aftermarket replacement then the residual pressure valve is mostly replaced with a hard machined inverted flare and then the port residual valves is no longer possible to add. Then one haveto go for a set of inline valves.......
Bummer
#21
Thanks Hooler
I made some digging last night and it appears like that old Master cylinders where equipped the way you decribes, however is seems like if one buys a part replacement or new aftermarket replacement then the residual pressure valve is mostly replaced with a hard machined inverted flare and then the port residual valves is no longer possible to add. Then one haveto go for a set of inline valves.......
Bummer
I made some digging last night and it appears like that old Master cylinders where equipped the way you decribes, however is seems like if one buys a part replacement or new aftermarket replacement then the residual pressure valve is mostly replaced with a hard machined inverted flare and then the port residual valves is no longer possible to add. Then one haveto go for a set of inline valves.......
Bummer
#22
#23
So I hade to make it like this to get everything to line up with the filler hole in the floor and skipping the offsetting kit
If you look thru these post from the bottom up you will understand what I did
DinnerHill SpeedShop: Brake system
#24
From what I found out when I did my research I couldn´t find any dual MC that would place it in the stock location.
So I hade to make it like this to get everything to line up with the filler hole in the floor and skipping the offsetting kit
If you look thru these post from the bottom up you will understand what I did
DinnerHill SpeedShop: Brake system
So I hade to make it like this to get everything to line up with the filler hole in the floor and skipping the offsetting kit
If you look thru these post from the bottom up you will understand what I did
DinnerHill SpeedShop: Brake system
Resurrected, I am still kicking this conversion around in my head too
I don't really have fab skills or the tools to modify things so I am quite limited to bolt on solutions. One I was looking at was the dual MC from Mid-Fifty
Its part number is 5914 and its mounting bracket kit is 5912. Its just what I have looked into. I haven't even called them and talked it out with them to make sure I am on the right page on this. I just wanted to let you know it could be a possibility.
#25
Hey Jimmy, you are doing some great work and I am learning much and enjoying your build thread. Keep the great information coming.
Resurrected, I am still kicking this conversion around in my head too
I don't really have fab skills or the tools to modify things so I am quite limited to bolt on solutions. One I was looking at was the dual MC from Mid-Fifty
Its part number is 5914 and its mounting bracket kit is 5912. Its just what I have looked into. I haven't even called them and talked it out with them to make sure I am on the right page on this. I just wanted to let you know it could be a possibility.
Resurrected, I am still kicking this conversion around in my head too
I don't really have fab skills or the tools to modify things so I am quite limited to bolt on solutions. One I was looking at was the dual MC from Mid-Fifty
Its part number is 5914 and its mounting bracket kit is 5912. Its just what I have looked into. I haven't even called them and talked it out with them to make sure I am on the right page on this. I just wanted to let you know it could be a possibility.
Those are the exact same parts that I based my conversion on. They state it will place the Mc under the original filler cap but that's not quite true.
That mc and bracket will place the mc centerline offset towards the Trans. They have a offset kit, witch includes a longer clutch shift and a more narrow u bracket, the one between, clutch shift end and Trans mount.
However that solution will transfer the pedalforce to the mc pushrod thru bendingen a bolt......in my engineering eyes, not very safe.
If you can use an measuring tape and an angle grinder, you are halfway there. Then just hire or ask a friend if they can weld it together.
If you want more input on how I did, just let me know and I will do my best to guide you thru it.
#26
Modern dual circuit MC have a different mounting pattern than the earlier underfloor MCs, so an adapter is required. Mid Fifty has the kit for the conversion. I have a nearly new non-boosted kit installed in my 56 that I've since changed to hanging pedals with boosted MC. I'd be willing to sell all but the proportioning valve which is for disk/drum setup. PM me if interested.
#27
From what I found out when I did my research I couldn´t find any dual MC that would place it in the stock location.
So I hade to make it like this to get everything to line up with the filler hole in the floor and skipping the offsetting kit
If you look thru these post from the bottom up you will understand what I did
DinnerHill SpeedShop: Brake system
So I hade to make it like this to get everything to line up with the filler hole in the floor and skipping the offsetting kit
If you look thru these post from the bottom up you will understand what I did
DinnerHill SpeedShop: Brake system
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