I'm now a victim...
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I'm now a victim...
For years I've been watching threads about bad fuel, I think I've recently become a victim...
I filled up last saturday to the tune of $150, drove around all day and noticed the truck acting quite sluggish and requiring more go-pedal to maintain speed. I get home and barely make it up the driveway in time for my truck to stall.
I figure "ok, my fuel pump is gone again" so I replace it and make an interesting discovery: my pre-pump filter is litterally clogged with gunk. So I made the mistake of letting the filter soak with a combination of MAF cleaner and PB Blaster and let it soak. (single handedly destroying the evidence I needed for the gas station) The gunk comes off, but then it dons on me that I may have a batch of bad diesel, if not the crud from the bottom of the tank.
When I changed the main fuel filter, the fuel in the bowl just didn't smell right or seem like it was the correct "consistency" for diesel and almost seemed more watery than anything else.
Although it's obvious that I seem to have bad fuel, those of you who have dealt with this: what are some do's, don'ts, and pointers for a situation like this?
I ask becuase at this point, I think my injectors may have been damaged and I'm not about to pay for something that isn't my fault.
So aside from calling the offending company, what are some other steps I should take? (gathering evidence, getting my truck fixed, etc...)
I filled up last saturday to the tune of $150, drove around all day and noticed the truck acting quite sluggish and requiring more go-pedal to maintain speed. I get home and barely make it up the driveway in time for my truck to stall.
I figure "ok, my fuel pump is gone again" so I replace it and make an interesting discovery: my pre-pump filter is litterally clogged with gunk. So I made the mistake of letting the filter soak with a combination of MAF cleaner and PB Blaster and let it soak. (single handedly destroying the evidence I needed for the gas station) The gunk comes off, but then it dons on me that I may have a batch of bad diesel, if not the crud from the bottom of the tank.
When I changed the main fuel filter, the fuel in the bowl just didn't smell right or seem like it was the correct "consistency" for diesel and almost seemed more watery than anything else.
Although it's obvious that I seem to have bad fuel, those of you who have dealt with this: what are some do's, don'ts, and pointers for a situation like this?
I ask becuase at this point, I think my injectors may have been damaged and I'm not about to pay for something that isn't my fault.
So aside from calling the offending company, what are some other steps I should take? (gathering evidence, getting my truck fixed, etc...)
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Sorry to hear this. First off I'd save a sample of the fuel. Perhaps video tape yourself pulling it out of the tank and showing whatever gunk you still have on rags or whatever from your cleaning. Then contact the station and your insurance company and see what everyone says. Make sure you still have your receipt or proof of purchase handy.
Why do you think it damaged your injectors? If it was just filled with crud, the filters should have caught it before it hit the injectors. If you believe the combustion characteristics of the fuel was so bad that it damaged the injectors, then I'm afraid you should park the Ex at a mechanics shop until this gets sorted out so you stop the damage and save further proof.
Why do you think it damaged your injectors? If it was just filled with crud, the filters should have caught it before it hit the injectors. If you believe the combustion characteristics of the fuel was so bad that it damaged the injectors, then I'm afraid you should park the Ex at a mechanics shop until this gets sorted out so you stop the damage and save further proof.
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This weard just talked to a old retired weight and scales man yesterday about this. He used to do all the pump test and all that good stuff that comes to checking fuel for quality and quanity. He told me that the store is not responsible but the fuel supplier is unless they have a problem between the tank and the pump then the station is. So you need to contact the station first and see if they have any more troubles and they should do the rest. But you can also check with your state dept as well they should tell you what to do aswell hopes this helps you out......
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I'm worried about the injectors becuase not knowing, I changed the fuel filters and (not knowing) ran the truck thinking my fuel filters were just clogged. It sounded real bad and even stalled a few times...My injectors made noises, I've NEVER heard them make before and even not knowing, it just didn't sound good. Although I'm maybe worried over nothing, it's one of those "better safe than sorry" sort of things.
I called Murphy Oil and they requested I have the truck diagnosed at a local shop then forward a reapir estimate and I'll be reimbursed accordingly I suppose...
I just happened to cruise by wal-mart this morning and they had a guy out there testing the fuel at the pump I was at almost a week ago. My guess is that since then, they've run out of the the contaminated fuel and since had some fresh fuel come in. My truck hasn't moved much since Sunday night and Dave at DI Performance is supposed to test the fuel for me, so we'll see how this turns out...
I called Murphy Oil and they requested I have the truck diagnosed at a local shop then forward a reapir estimate and I'll be reimbursed accordingly I suppose...
I just happened to cruise by wal-mart this morning and they had a guy out there testing the fuel at the pump I was at almost a week ago. My guess is that since then, they've run out of the the contaminated fuel and since had some fresh fuel come in. My truck hasn't moved much since Sunday night and Dave at DI Performance is supposed to test the fuel for me, so we'll see how this turns out...
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That is understandable. I do not believe the injectors are harmed.
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I'm worried about the injectors becuase not knowing, I changed the fuel filters and (not knowing) ran the truck thinking my fuel filters were just clogged. It sounded real bad and even stalled a few times...My injectors made noises, I've NEVER heard them make before and even not knowing, it just didn't sound good. Although I'm maybe worried over nothing, it's one of those "better safe than sorry" sort of things.
I called Murphy Oil and they requested I have the truck diagnosed at a local shop then forward a reapir estimate and I'll be reimbursed accordingly I suppose...
I just happened to cruise by wal-mart this morning and they had a guy out there testing the fuel at the pump I was at almost a week ago. My guess is that since then, they've run out of the the contaminated fuel and since had some fresh fuel come in. My truck hasn't moved much since Sunday night and Dave at DI Performance is supposed to test the fuel for me, so we'll see how this turns out...
I called Murphy Oil and they requested I have the truck diagnosed at a local shop then forward a reapir estimate and I'll be reimbursed accordingly I suppose...
I just happened to cruise by wal-mart this morning and they had a guy out there testing the fuel at the pump I was at almost a week ago. My guess is that since then, they've run out of the the contaminated fuel and since had some fresh fuel come in. My truck hasn't moved much since Sunday night and Dave at DI Performance is supposed to test the fuel for me, so we'll see how this turns out...
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He also told me if they pump the tanks and get all the bad out they still dont get it all a company has to come in and clean the hole system from tank to pump before they can use it again or they will get another fine. He said it dont take a lot of sludge to show in the test. They can pull a sample from the tank with some kind of dipper and also get a sample from the pump and then compare the differance between them to see if it is between the tank and pump like mabey a break in the line. All the new pumps have the pump in the tank what we stick in our trucks is just a hose. If they were out checking the pumps you probley ant the only one having problems. Good luck with it....
But aren't they supposed to have filters between the tank and the pump? That would have caught any debris which was instead caught by the filters in his truck.
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The filters at gas station are 30mic or greater - the trucks filter is 7mic. No, those filters aint gonna stop nasty crap from getting to your truck.
Oil companies (gas suppliers) have spent 100's of 1000's of dollars for 'mistakes' that lead to this kind of problem.
I work in the BIG tanks where the trucks who bring fuel to gas station fill up. There are several ways what happened to you can happen...
Oil companies (gas suppliers) have spent 100's of 1000's of dollars for 'mistakes' that lead to this kind of problem.
I work in the BIG tanks where the trucks who bring fuel to gas station fill up. There are several ways what happened to you can happen...