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From my experience, the 300 doesn't get any better fuel economy than the 351 or 302. I really don't care either way though. Carry on!
 
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Last weekend I got a 95 300 I6 for $250 off craigslist. The engine came out of a wrecked truck and after I got the valve cover off, its a very clean engine! Best thing is I got it $50 less than a junk yard and did not have to pull it to boot! Junkyard engine hoists are not the "user friendly" kind....
 
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Last weekend I got a 95 300 I6 for $250 off craigslist. The engine came out of a wrecked truck and after I got the valve cover off, its a very clean engine! Best thing is I got it $50 less than a junk yard and did not have to pull it to boot! Junkyard engine hoists are not the "user friendly" kind....
sounds like a great deal. How many miles?

you'll want to drop the pan and check the bottom end. I would replace the oil pump b/c they seem to fail on these 300 I6's more often than other engines. rear main and water pump are a given in order to skip teadious maintence in the future.

Craigslist always has good deals for us ford guys... if you like CL try CZL! www.crazedlist.org
 
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sounds like a great deal. How many miles?

you'll want to drop the pan and check the bottom end. I would replace the oil pump b/c they seem to fail on these 300 I6's more often than other engines. rear main and water pump are a given in order to skip teadious maintence in the future.

Craigslist always has good deals for us ford guys... if you like CL try CZL! www.crazedlist.org

It had over 200K and all docs as it was a fleet truck. The guy I got it from got the truck for the cab and bed, keeped the engine and tranny(e4od) but ran out of room(like me). My friend got screwed on his E4OD rebuild and he may get the tranny from the guy depending on if he gets the sob that took his tranny and $$$......3 months his truck sits in my driveway now.....

I will be doing a ring and bearing overhaul and will replace oil pump,core plugs, water pump and ect... got the engine out best do it right 1st time!

Kinda wondering about the engine mounts on the 94/95 I6 engines, they look like the 80 to 86 engine mounts ( \ engine block / ). Not like the 92 engine my friend has and the 90 parts truck( --engine block --) <--- old days of ANSI grpahics there.
I have the I6 pedistals from a 90 truck to use but looks like I'll be hitting the junkyard to get the engine block brackets.
 
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The eddy 500cfm is more than enough to run a 4.9L I6... You might be running it rich with 650cfm. The eddy 500 is a plug and play carb... I myself am only running a 390cfm...
if i change the jets, etc could i make it so it wouldnt run as rich, the only reason im getting this carb is cuz its from a buddy of mine for cheap
 
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if i change the jets, etc could i make it so it wouldnt run as rich, the only reason im getting this carb is cuz its from a buddy of mine for cheap
Sounds good... Just didn't want you to "overspend" if you were buying parts new. Are you buying the Offey DP new?
 
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I'll be hitting the junkyard to get the engine block brackets.
Do you mean the motor mounts, or the towers that are rivited to the frame? If you are talking about the motor mounts I would just buy new ones if I was you. Rock auto has them for $16ish each... New rubber/poly would be a better sound and vibration dampener... www.rockauto.com
 
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Local pick-u-part is less than $200 complete with all engine with FI parts for any gaser. AND it is ok to tear it apart and verify whever before you purchase. I would verify no water in oil then tear it down and determine bore quality and crank quality before I dropted my money on it. Plus they have a 30 day swap warantee. There is no way to run and engine. No $$ returned but you can pick another engine.
NORMAL junk yards are very pricy for the same item, almost any engine would run anyway unless it is broken and you can verify total destruction with visual mechanical inspection.
What have you got to lose; head for a pick your own parts type of place.
There are many in-line 6's in the local PP. AND they take the debit card!!
BUT I am in DALLAS.
NO I have no connection with them but I personally like a non rip-off deal.
 
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Sounds good... Just didn't want you to "overspend" if you were buying parts new. Are you buying the Offey DP new?
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i am getting the offey dp new probably, i found one in omaha but he wanted to sell the carb as well for 250 and i tried to talk him into just selling me the intake but he wouldnt

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Do you mean the motor mounts, or the towers that are rivited to the frame? If you are talking about the motor mounts I would just buy new ones if I was you. Rock auto has them for $16ish each... New rubber/poly would be a better sound and vibration dampener... RockAuto Auto Parts
ive already got new motor mounts from rockauto (you told me to get them a while back when i busted them haha)
 
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another question, does anybody know how to modify the stock electric fuel pumps to not do anything and have the mechanical fuel pump work with it? anybody know?
 
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Originally Posted by oleman
Local pick-u-part is less than $200 complete with all engine with FI parts for any gaser.

There is no way to run and engine. No $$ returned but you can pick another engine.
I agree some treasures can be found at a junk yard but unles you are a mechinist and know the specks for everything and know what your looking for... Well I personally probably wouldn't buy a JY motor for that reason and especially if you are rebuilding! I just pulled the head from my 83 and to get back into spec I'll have to spend $400+ on the head alone! I like to hear the engine run, check its oil, compression, oil pressure, listen for ticks and knocks... You could end up with a engine on it's last legs if your not careful. Even the guys on Muscle Car (Spike TV) had a how to on picking a JY engine and they said to steer clear if you can't turn over or start the engine. The bone yards are just trying to make a profit on the steel sitting there...

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i am getting the offey dp new probably, i found one in omaha but he wanted to sell the carb as well for 250 and i tried to talk him into just selling me the intake but he wouldnt
What carb does he have? Holley or Eddie? what cfm? If you talk to the guy chances are he has a throttle cable bracket already made along with a carb already tuned to the I6 engine. not to say your buddies 600cfm wouldn't work... Also Summit, Jeggs, and Ebay are all $260+S&H for the intake alone.You might be able to rebuild the carb and sell it on here or ebay and make some money back to pay for the intake... Just a suggestion...

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ive already got new motor mounts from rockauto (you told me to get them a while back when i busted them haha)
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another question, does anybody know how to modify the stock electric fuel pumps to not do anything and have the mechanical fuel pump work with it? anybody know?
I'm not 100% sure on the pumps but if they have any kind of valving in them you'll have to take them out in order for your mechanicle pump to draw the fuel up... You could probably just get a FPR from summit or jeggs to run lower the fuel pressure to the carb. I think it was 1966Tbird that was going to write a sticky on this in the 87-96 forum. You might try PMing him. Here is a forum that they are talking about a similar situation Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Profile: 1966Tbird
 
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Originally Posted by nstueve
Do you mean the motor mounts, or the towers that are rivited to the frame? If you are talking about the motor mounts I would just buy new ones if I was you. Rock auto has them for $16ish each... New rubber/poly would be a better sound and vibration dampener... www.rockauto.com
I posted a new thread:https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post10235657



Anyway, heres the engine I got.



Top end is clean and all water passages are good.
 
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