OK. . .long story short, a friend of a friend passed away. . .he was a bit of a hoarder and in the collection stuff is a Ford 352 engine (at least that's what they say is stamped on it, I'm not familiar with this engine) and an as yet unidentified tranny. . .

. . .the guy had the engine to put into a Galaxy. . .I don't know what year. . .

. . .anyway, I tend to grab up engines/trannies that are a good deal and this is one of these times, but I have no clue what to offer them for the engine. . .it's all together and it's probably good to go, but no one knows for sure since the owner passed away. . .if I don't grab it's gonna go to the scrapyard.

Thanks!

 

What's on the valve covers? powered by Ford, or F O R D, or Thunderbird?

 

For some reason a lot of FE's had a 352 stamped on the front, that doesn't tell you the size of the engine. The only fool proof way is to measure the bore and stroke, or check the casting numbers, you can usually get a fairly good idea of what you have based the numbers stamped in the intake and heads and block as long as its all original. The block casting number is usually on the rear passenger side from what I have heard and the head casting number is stamped on 2 little tages between the middle spark plugs on both sides. As far as the tranny, you can usually identify it based on the shape and number of bolts on the tranny pan. If its all original and a car engine for a galaxie from the early to mid 60's its probably a cruise-o-matic. Value all depends on where you live and availability and what the buyer is willing to pay. If its all original and in good shape and can run, $300 to $400 would be fare, but that's just my opinion sight unseen. If its a 427 or 428 or even a 410 then it would be worth considerably more.

 

Or a 406. And can be recognized by the crossbolts on the block.

 

I'll check on that and grab the casting numbers on the way home tomorrow. . .

. . .I wasn't sure what to look for so I didn't waste anytime writing down useless info. . .

. . .bottom line is, the stuff isn't going anywhere fast. . .they probably have at least 2 years before they even get remotely close to sorting through all this stuff and they don't want strangers digging through the stuff. . .so right now it's just us young guys from work that are allowed to look at stuff and I'm the only one interested in the engine and tranny.

I'll post up what I find out.

Thanks for the help!

 

No problem. Post up what you can find and some pictures if you can and we should be able to give you a good idea.

 

[quote=jchamp429;10147648 As far as the tranny, you can usually identify it based on the shape and number of bolts on the tranny pan. If its all original and a car engine for a galaxie from the early to mid 60's its probably a cruise-o-matic. [/quote]

Thanks for the tip on the tranny. . .did an image search and I'm pretty sure that's what it is just based off of the pictures I found. . .

. . .what would positively identify the tranny as a Cruise-O-Matic?

Thanks again!!!

 

Some '60s info here:

FE Cylinder Head I.D. and Application Chart

 

First off its gonna be heavy as all hell since its a cast iron case. As far as what it looks like, I have one out of my 65 galaxie sitting next to my house, I will snap a couple pictures of it tomorrow when its light out

 

COM is iron case with aluminum bell.

Pics, info here:

Ford Cruisomatic transmission

 

Hmmm. . .heavy it's not. . .I thought it was pretty darn light. . .I could have moved it by myself, but my definition of heavy might be skewed.

It's lighter than a Chevy TH350 that's for darn sure. . .the bellhousing is attached to the 352 and the tranny was separated from the engine/bellhousing, but there is no guarantee that these two were ever mated to begin with. . .

. . .but it looks just like the picture. . .long tailhousing, shift levers in the exact same place. . .appears to be the same thing.

It was raining outside today so I didn't spend much time looking it over. . .time wasn't pressing and there was plenty of other stuff to occupy me in the dry garage. . .so far this is what I've picked up:

-X/Y axis table for drill press
-(3) 40 cu. ft. acetylene tanks
-(1) 130 cu. ft. acetylene tank w/cart
-two sets of V-blocks
-two sets of 1-2-3 blocks
-one ground angle plate
-desmond dresser
-Norbide stone
-13#'s of copper sheet (for the firlfriends copper crafting)
-38#'s of bronze/aluminum/nickel round stock (gonna use that for weld slugs for welding jigs for suspension members)
-HiLift jack
-five sets of small C-clamps (using these for milling set-ups)

after I take my blacksmithing class in two weeks I'm going back and there are more hammers in his garage than I have ever seen in my entire life. . .gonna go through and take what I think I can use.

Thanks again for the help!!! I will grab a camera and take some pictures and post them up. . .I'll make sure to have a wire brush on me also so I can scrub the oil/grease away from the casting numbers.

 

Thanks for this link. . .I especially liked hearing that this was used by Cadillac for a period of time. . .

. . .because I have a Cadillac 472 shortblock that I picked up for a future project. . .

. . .would this tranny be able to handle a Caddy 472, I have been told that the Caddy engines could make over 400 ft-lbs of torque in stock form. . .I was wanting to use the Caddy engine in a 2-door Mercury lead sled application (the car is still waiting to be found, but I'm slowing putting the drivetrain together so that I'll be ready when the opportunity presents itself!).

Thanks!

 

Do the part numbers in this link match up to the casting numbers on the heads???

 

--The use of the Ford trans for Cadiddlac was in 1953, which predates the 472 by many, many years. A GM trans in the form of the TH400 with the Cad pattern would the way to go there.

--The casting numbers can be used to identify heads, and to some degree blocks. They are not the same as part numbers. How to read the casting numbers here:

Classic Mustang Part Number Decoding Guide

 

Thanks again. . .I figured it was too much to ask for the tranny to work for an engine/project that I already had in mind.

Thanks for the link!!!