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Old 03-26-2014, 12:25 PM
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My 2005 F150 FX4 5.4 is in the shop for head repair and the shop told me they are going to install Champion 515 in place of the motorcraft presently in it. They apparently, according to the shop tech, have had way much better luck with the Champions as opposed to the motorcraft. The engine (truck) has 114500 miles on it. I was going to install some E-3s that I had but was advised against it. I wonder why? The E-3 is a one piece as opposed to the dreaded 2 piece. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 03-27-2014, 09:13 AM
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2 piece spark plug

As far as a repllacement plug, as long as you put nickel anti-seize on the new plugs they will come out much easier in the future. I would also replace them a little earlier as far as mileage. I have heard nothing good about E3 plugs including my own experience with them in numerous vehicles.....stick with either OEM Motorcraft or Champion plugs.
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Guys,

I was told by the dealer that it was a $500.00 job to replace the plugs. I told them they were nuts and was going to do it myself. The Service Manager told me not to try it myself because the plugs get stuck in the block and because they break off and fall into the cylinder. When I got home I looked at my trusty Haynes manual and this is what it states "Ford has issued TSB 08-7-6 stateing that attempting to remove the spake plugs is likely to result in extended electrode breaking off in the cylinder head" It goes on further to explain this is for engine builds before 10/07.

I have been changing spark plugs on my own vehicles for ever, this is the first time I am a little nervous. I have a 2010 with a 5.4 should I be concerned or what? Any thoughts?
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Ah excuse my ignorance guys,seeing that any late model effie is as scarce as hens teeth and worth a small fortune out here in australia,what does a 2 piece spark plug look like,they sound like they are a real pain in the A.
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Guys,

I was told by the dealer that it was a $500.00 job to replace the plugs. I told them they were nuts and was going to do it myself. The Service Manager told me not to try it myself because the plugs get stuck in the block and because they break off and fall into the cylinder. When I got home I looked at my trusty Haynes manual and this is what it states "Ford has issued TSB 08-7-6 stateing that attempting to remove the spake plugs is likely to result in extended electrode breaking off in the cylinder head" It goes on further to explain this is for engine builds before 10/07.

I have been changing spark plugs on my own vehicles for ever, this is the first time I am a little nervous. I have a 2010 with a 5.4 should I be concerned or what? Any thoughts?
According to the thread the plug design was changed mid-year 08 to a 1 piece design. I would take that as they will not break since they are no longer the 2 piece design, however I haven't changed plugs in mine yet. I will more than likely do mine myself when I'm closer to 100K
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Guys,

I was told by the dealer that it was a $500.00 job to replace the plugs. I told them they were nuts and was going to do it myself. The Service Manager told me not to try it myself because the plugs get stuck in the block and because they break off and fall into the cylinder. When I got home I looked at my trusty Haynes manual and this is what it states "Ford has issued TSB 08-7-6 stateing that attempting to remove the spark plugs is likely to result in extended electrode breaking off in the cylinder head" It goes on further to explain this is for engine builds before 10/07.

I have been changing spark plugs on my own vehicles for ever, this is the first time I am a little nervous. I have a 2010 with a 5.4 should I be concerned or what? Any thoughts?
Do it yourself. The 2010 has the revised plug and it is easy easy easy. Literally got done less than half an hour ago with my 2010 Expedition with 90k miles. Took 55 minutes from opening the toolbox to everything put up and hands clean. The passenger side is a smidge easier than the drivers side to me at least.....it was pretty tough gettin the torque wrench in on the drivers side. I bought Motorcraft plugs on Rockauto for like $65. No way I'd pay anybody more than $100 for labor on a 09 up 5.4. $500 even with parts is ludicrous.
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Thanks Mike460 good to know. I will update when I do them.
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I thought I read somewhere that when they changed the plug design they also changed the color of the cop. Can anyone help clear my head on this? Something about either a black cop or possibly a brown cop but can't remember which was good.
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