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Old 03-16-2011, 07:05 PM
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Cardon Joint Bearing

Anyone ever replace the Centering Yoke bearing on the double cardon joint? I am replacing my u-joints tonight and the little bearing and spring assembly that keeps the tension on the double cardon joint is in serious need of replacement. Has anyone ever seen a place where you can buy the bearing all by itself? I can get the whole centering yoke for $45 from Rock Auto, but I don't need the whole yoke, just the bearing.

I don't suppose it would be advisable to reassemble this thing without that spring and bearing either.

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dont know where in NE ohio you are but in cleveland I had custom clutch rebuild a double carden front shaft with 3 new spicer joints and balanced for about $200

You could see if they have your part
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Thanks for the info. I don't really need the shaft rebuilt since I have three new u-joints already here, but worse come to worse I might give them a call and see whether they can get just the bearing.
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I would love to know how to do this. I hear it is a total BIOTCH!!!.
Would you care to take pics and/or tell me what you had to do? I have one that I would like to rebuild myself.

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I will try to remember to take some pics as I am putting things back together. One thing I will say is that I don't think I would have been able to do it if I didn't have a cutting torch. The front U-Joint in the double cardon joint was basically too big to be removed by pressing (driving) out the caps. I just cut it out with a torch and then drove the caps into the center of the joint. The cross of the u-joint actually hits the inside of the yoke before the caps come loose.

I will snap some pictures as I finish things up and this description will make a lot more sense.

Anybody else know where to get the bearing for this thing? Otherwise I guess I will be ordering the whole yoke for $45.

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I rebuilt my own double cardan about 6 years ago but I can't picture what centering bearing you're talking about.
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The bearing I need is part of this assembly.

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I thought from the look of it that the bearing may be replaceable by itself, but I am not finding anything. Ordered it from Rock Auto. Should be here in a day or two.

This is actually the front half of the yoke that comes out of the transfer case. the bearing and spring keep everything centered as much as possible, I assume to minimize vibration coming from the double Cardon Joint.
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I think you had to get the whole piece. I replaced the one on my 76 last fall and had to get that part just like that one.
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There is a web site for Ford Explorers where a guy explains how to replace the bearing you are referring to. If you can get the assembly for 45 bones I would just go that route, way easier, the bearing is pressed in and you have to cut ,grind and chisel the old one out. I paid 120 bucks for that same assembly. Spend the 45.
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Update

Just a quick update. I got my parts from Rock Auto on Thursday and re-assembled everything in about 30 minutes time. About 15 to put the joint back together and another 15 to put the drive shaft and skid plates back on the truck. Not a bad job at all. Here are some pics.

Self Centering Yoke with bearing.
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Bearing pin on the front U-joint Carrier
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Assembled Self Centering Joint
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Assembled Joint
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Not a bad job all in all. I'm not sure how I would have gotten the front u-joint out of the carrier without a cutting torch though. The carrier is not wide enough to allow the u-joint to move far enough to drive the caps out one at a time.

At any rate, there's the update and this did, indeed, solve the issue I was having with my "chirping" 4 wheel drive.
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Nice work Nate. I've never had to go through one of those.
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Looks good Nate. That's the same thing I had to do to my 76 highboy. Same parts replaced and all. I used a portable band saw to cut my joint out, I know what you mean there.
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Looks good Nate. That's the same thing I had to do to my 76 highboy. Same parts replaced and all. I used a portable band saw to cut my joint out, I know what you mean there.
Yeah, A porta-band would work pretty good too I guess, or even a sawzall with a metal blade. For that matter, I guess you could get the job done with a sharp hacksaw and a generous application o f elbow grease. The good 'ol red wrench just makes short work of jobs like this.
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Thanks a ton forthe update and pics.
Now I believe I could do thi s, now having seen one taken apart.
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Though this pic is of the finished process, it also represents the old unit and the problem with the disassembly?

I may try this on my donor front shaft. Thanks, the pics really help!

Referencing this picture… Could both U joints that have their caps at the top 12 o'clock position be pushed the same direction at the same time allowing disassembly without a band saw or torch?

Not literally at the same time. I mean push one a little, then the other, and so on.

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