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Old 03-10-2011, 04:24 PM
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Wheel Stud Length

I haven't seen this addressed before, and "search" turned up nothing.

I'm installing newer model Ford aluminum wheels on a 53 F100. The lug nut only catches 6 threads on the bolt. I'm not comfortable with that.

Does that bother anyone else? If so, how did you deal with it?

The wheel studs on our 79 F150, and on our 96 E150 are 5/8" longer, with the last 1/4" without threads. (easier to start, I guess) The 79, and the 96 were both available with factory aluminum wheels, so I'm thinking that's why they are longer. They catch 3/8" more threads. Not a lot, but it seems better than what I'm getting.

Am I over thinking this?

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My 50 has the original studs and late-model steel wheels. It has sleeved lug nuts something like this one. They are a $#@# to get started, but I see your concern. A regular lug nut wouldn't work. Just not enough thread length.

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You could always drive the studs out and buy longer ones at your local parts house.
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I agree with Tim, in that if you're using thicker wheels, you may want to consider replacing the studs with longer ones to make sure you have enough attachment.
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OK, I left out a paragraph. It's what happens when I try to throw in a quick post on break.

The cashiers at the local parts stores (the stores with the shiny stuff on the wall that ran all the good parts houses out of town) can't seem to help me. They rely on the computer to tell them what wheel studs I need, and can't get over the fact I need longer ones. Does anyone know what other trucks use the same diameter studs, that are 1/2 inch longer?

Now, if I needed a bunch of peal and stick chrome plated plastic, or 50 different kinds of tire cleaner, they could set me right up.

There is a good NAPA store about 25 miles from me. I might drive over there Saturday. The guys there actually know how to look up parts in the specification books.
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I think I have you a solution, but it's gonna take some scanning of catalog pics and a detailed description of part numbers, cross references, measurements, etc. So I'll come back and edit this in the morning. Stu
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Luckily I didn't have to do any scans because these are now on-line. So, trying to be organized about this, I first looked up your wheel studs in the 1954 Ford Chassis Manual. The Ford part number for 1948 to 1954 F-1/F-100 wheel studs is 8A 1107-A. They are listed as being 1/2"/20 tpi x 1 3/8" long. I next cross referred the Ford number to Dorman Products part number 610-109. Dorman lists it being 1 5/8" long, with other measurements being the same as shown by Ford. Here it is in the Dorman on-line catalog page.

Dorman Products - 610-109

Important in that measurement is the .625" width of the stud's knurled area. This controls which replacement studs might work for you. Luckily all studs having the .625" diameter are pictured together in the catalog.

So, what you next want to find is a stud that positions the knurled area similar to the stock stud. To me of the ones shown on the below Dorman page having the best shot at solving your problem are Dorman numbers 610-080, 610-149, and 610-219. These are the ones that are about 2" long. When you look at the catalog page keep in mind that you don't want left hand threaded studs that have an "L" in their part numbers.

https://www.dormanproducts.com/catal...ec10_Part4.pdf

The Dorman 610-080 (which looks to me like your best option) cross refers to GM part #s 1349518 and 1349519. Why two numbers I don't know. The 610-149 cross refers to Ford #C9OZ 1107-A, and the 610-219 cross refers to C9TZ 1107-D.

If you do a Google search for "Dorman Wheel Studs" you find a lot listed as being available from places like Autozone, O'Reilly, and other common suppliers. So finding them locally shouldn't be hard now that you are armed to defeat the kid behind the counter. Having this on-line info in hand when you go shopping you may also want to buy one stud of several different numbers to see which best meets your needs. Stu

Edit - as I've thought more on this, you might decide that the 1 11/16" or 1 3/4" long studs are more to your liking. They'd give you about 1/2" more threaded area that the stock 1 3/8", and wouldn't hang out the ends of your nuts so much. Stu
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Truckdog, Thank you. That is exactly what I needed.
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Has anyone used the Dorman 610-109 with any success? I need some longer studs, so I'm trying to find the correct ones. I'm running factory drums all the way around.

If the 109 didn't work, which did? Thanks!
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The basic rule of thumb for any fastner is the bolt should have thread contact for a minimum of its diameter, e.g. 1/2" bolt- 1/2" thread engagement, 3/8" bolt-3/8"
thread engagement, you should get the picture.
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