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Old 03-09-2011, 10:35 PM
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Ford's New 5.0L engine swap

The reverse in my 1990 Bronco went out around the end of January 2011 or so and would REALLY love to get the new 5.0L Ford Coyote engine and transmission installed.

ANY suggestions on how to get this done?

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Research the heck out of it. Let us know how it turns out. Nothing will swap so you are into fabrication and modification to make it work. Fortunately it shares transmission configuration with the 4.6L so I imagine any truck transmission from a truck so-equipped should work as long as there is a PCM that will run it and the Coyote in harmony. Its going to need all of the electronic peripherals to make it function along with wiring and computer. I imagine being able to develop the kind of HP that it does shouldn't be a problem moving something the size/weight of a Bronco around but the tuning may need to be tweaked to really get maximum performance from it. (As if 412 ponies would need tweaking as long as they found their way to the pavement eventually).
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Ok thanks. But this forum is part of my research it. So far I've just found the 5.0L coyote engine, control pack and an alternator kit. I've also thought of just calling salvage yards or even my insurance agent to see about getting the drive train from a wrecked 2011 F150.
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buying a wrecked vehicle would make the swap easier but understand NOBODY has done this yet at all. This swap would be a first that i am aware of. be prepared to spend some bucks on this also especially if you cant weld/fabricate.
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Thanks but I'm aware that it will cost a lot for this swap. The parts alone are gonna be at least $10K. Guess I'm gonna have to rent a garage too or move into a house that has one cuz this could take months or years to do. And I guess I'm also also gonna have to take a welding course.
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I've seen 4.6's in older foxbody stangs.... so just maybe there are some parts out there. I know Ford has a carb intake for them, to make the new engines more swappable, and a few years ago had 2 demo vehicles, 1 was a 53 panel UPS styled truck with new drivetrain, and the other was i wanna say a 67 stang. It's been awhile so i'd check with Ford Racing and see what they say.
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The Coyote 5.0L is barely available in new Mustangs and is slated to be available as a Ford crate engine very soon but there is no way (or good reason) for a carburetor to be put on it. Without the EFI and the computer for timing and fuel/air metering... what's the point? Those things are what give this engine its better than 400 HP capacity. Am I missing something?
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This is quoted from 1965 Mustang Fastback with 5.0 Cammer | FR100 UPS 1953 Panel Truck with Supercharged 5.0 Cammer
"According to Andy Schwartz, FRPP "Cammer" engine project manager, "Even with the carburetors in place of our advanced fuel injection setup, the 5.0-liter four-valve "Cammer" in the '65 Mustang delivers a healthy 420 horsepower at 6700 rpm. And the torque curve peaks at about 395 foot-pounds at 4000 rpm."
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This is quoted from 1965 Mustang Fastback with 5.0 Cammer | FR100 UPS 1953 Panel Truck with Supercharged 5.0 Cammer
"According to Andy Schwartz, FRPP "Cammer" engine project manager, "Even with the carburetors in place of our advanced fuel injection setup, the 5.0-liter four-valve "Cammer" in the '65 Mustang delivers a healthy 420 horsepower at 6700 rpm. And the torque curve peaks at about 395 foot-pounds at 4000 rpm."
Notice he said "carburetors" Gas mileage will be terrible at best without the Fuel Injection.
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Yeah, without the computer and precise fuel metering that comes with EFI and controlled valve timing, you are still going backwards and dumping way more fuel into the system than necessary. I could get 375 HP out of my bone stock Cadi 472 with the secondaries reworked to open with the primaries. But with only 25 gallons of fuel in the tank I could pass everything on the highway... except the filling station.
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Thats not true, if you have a mechanical setup set right, it will equal the digital equivalent. You can't let the computer do everything for you.
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The computer timing is what makes the new 5.0 the powerhouse and gives it the mpgs. Were not saying you can't swap it in and throw carbs on it. You just wont be getting 400 hp and 26 mpgs.
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Just chiming in...I'm wanting to do this in a 73 F100.

I have just started researching it.
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There is some good news on this subject. Bronco Driver is doing a 2007 Mustang engine and transmission installation into a 1976 Bronco in issue # 50. The project name is Operation Screamin' Demon (1976 Early Bronco). And is mentioned here:

Bronco Driver Magazine's Project Broncos

It's not the new 5.0L engine swap but it's a good start I'd say.
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Fitting a new gen engine in a Bronco sounds nice, i'll stay around and see what develops.
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