This is going to be a long post, so I'll apologize from the start..

Me and my wife are renting a house on 25 acres, and there are 3 other homes out there, all built by the same landlord. They don't care what we do out there really, as long as we don't tear stuff up. The houses are close together on the backside of the property, and our house is the furthest back. The layout is something like this...


House #4 - House #3 - Stables - House#2 - House#1
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^ Gravel driveway ^

Property line is behind the houses/stables, and the land stretches in front of the houses.

We ALL have dogs. We live in house #4, the house in bold are the neighbors in question. The rest of us get along really well and have cookouts etc.

Now, the wife and I have three dogs, and are all cut except for our mini aussie, because we have plans to breed him. All the other dogs out there are all cut as well, EXCEPT for a female dog owned by neighbors in house #2. Wouldn't care or have a problem, minus the fact that they leave her out 24/7, and she's in heat. They DO NOT have plans to breed her, they have told us that in regular conversation. This brings us to the incident that infuriated me the other day. I was out with my neighbor working on his truck. My dogs are out (except for the mini aussie), his are out, and the female in heat is out. All of a sudden the owner yells at us "you need to come separate your dog!", I look over and my pit bull has decided he wanted some female dog. As many may know, you cannot just separate dogs that have become stuck together, you have to just wait it out. So, me and my friend go over and he has to grab her dog (who is crying) and I turn my dog back around and put him back on top, to try and make it more comfortable.

All the while, the owner is just standing there, and continues to tack up her horse. Does not offer help, assistance, nothing. During all the commotion, two other dogs decide it's time to scrap, and they go at it (rarely happens). So, we go deal with that, while my dog is still attached to the female. We deal with that, and then go back to trying to get the stuck dogs to relax and separate. WHILE SHE STILL JUST GOES ON ABOUT HER BUSINESS! They separate, my dog is walking bowlegged HA...and infuriated ole me decides to thank her for her help, as it made things much easier by her just standing there watching, she's not a young lady, in her 40'2 and has a daughter and young son living with her. I may of also added a few , and she just stood there and didn't say a word. She then comes over and asks if my dogs were cut, at which I said yes. She said "oh, good, okay I was worried"...I was at a loss for words, and the only thing running through my mind was

If you're worried about it, then put the damned dog inside! Any ole stray (which we have had come up, when this dog came into heat) can walk up and make her the local breeding ground.

So here is my issue that I need to address. Before this dog came into heat, we could let our mini aussie run free, with us keeping an eye on him. But now, we turn our backs for 5 seconds and he wants that female. We've already had some close calls, and luckily he didn't get far enough before we got his attention. Also, now every time we let our other two dogs out, our CUT male wants some more of her too. So we have to watch him closer as well. My friend has two dogs, a cut male and female, and HIS male wants her as well, so he has to keep an eye out also.

Our mini aussie is cooped up inside too danged much, because they never bring their female dog inside, or watch her at all for that matter. He's getting antsy, and needs exercise, needs to be outside with the other dogs. He is USED to running around with ours and the neighbors dogs, they are all GREAT together.

They need to either cut the dog, or bring her inside some, or something. There lack of care, ignorance, lack of responsibility, selfishness has affected the rest of us with our dogs, whom we never had any issues until they moved in.

Be fore warned, I do not want to hear any "pit stories", "build a fence", whatever. We all moved out here for a reason. We have big kennel we put our two cut dogs in when we are not around, they are only outside running when we are home to watch them, and now even less than that.

Again, sorry for the long post, if you made it this far, I really appreciate it

 

Ignorance is bliss. Until it produces a litter.

I'd say if they refuse to do anything on their end, they get what they've got coming. There's no reason you should have to change your routine just because they won't take action.

I'd just tell them straight out, "If you're not going to do anything here to prevent your female from getting tagged, enjoy the puppies."

 

I would...normally. BUT, we have yet to breed our mini aussie as he is only a year old, and their dog an aussie as well. One, they would make alot of money off those puppies that we wouldn't be able to "prove" ours was the father. Two, from what we have seen, once a dog breeds to a female, he "claims" her, and we don't want him to "claim" that dog. I don't know, it just seems that they should just cut the damned dog. After all, they could afford 4 horses, and just bought a 5th, four days ago, but cant afford to cut their dog?

It's two fold to me. If you don't want ******* puppies, you don't leave your uncut female outside. If you DO want to breed your dog, you don't leave your uncut female (money maker) outside unsupervised to be "taken" by a stray.

Also, it's driving all of our dogs nuts. They act retarded when she comes around.

 

That being said, I'd approach it as a breeding business deal. Maybe you could hammer out a contract and both make some cash.

 

My wife and I actually talked about that...but this dog is UGLY, and was very poorly bred.

It'd be like the drunk frat guy getting trashed and professing his love for the fattest chic at the party
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^had to use his pictures as an example of how well bred he was. Come on, you know you want a puppy from him

I really just want to work something out with her, and explain to her that it's not only effect my wife and I, but our neighbors as well. But, I tend to get angry quick, and from little I've dealt with her, I know she will say something that would get me fired up. Like not taking responsibility for her dog. I may have to have my wife talk to them, but she's not much better...it's the Italian in her. I dunno, I think that if I go over there and bring my neighbors with me, it may keep me from getting too fired up.

 

I have the same issue with my neighbor. Her dogs free roam the whole neighborhood weeks at a time. They chase cars, kids on bikes, my motorcycle, dig in trash, bark under my window at 4a.m., etc...

I have told them plenty of times to control their pets. The other day I beat the door and the three grown men were scared to answer. I could hear them saying they did not want to talk to me. One finally answered. I told them that there was something wrong with them in their heads and might want to see about treatment. That really set them off.

The other night while I was waiting for the pizza man, the hooker from across the street begins apologizing to me and says she does not want me mad at them. I explained again that I do not care about them. I am concerned about the dogs well being. She then tells me that the dogs are from Angola State penitentiary and do not like to be locked up.

She told me she now has the small dog locked in the big outdoor parrot cage with the parrot.

I could not listen anymore, I paid for my pizza and went inside.


The moral here is : people are fricking nuts.

 

Lots of community's have free spay/neuter programs.
Give a call to your local animal shelter or ASPCA and ask.
Perhaps you could hand them the coupon....

If the dog is loose all the time maybe she would wander off for a day or to, and return with some stitches???

(very cute looking dog BTW)

 

Look here - you know as well as I that any responsible breeder would control a female in heat.

It isn't YOUR FAULT - and if the stupid lacadaisical wench would take the proper attention to her bitch that she ought to;

Either she would kennel her, or keep it in the house.

This is not your doing, owning a band.
The puppies are not your fault either - if she wants to breed it true she will take proper precautions, which she doesn't seem to even be aware of.

It's education time.


You either control your own stock - or what happens is nobodies fault but your OWN!

BOTTOM LINE:

KENNEL THE BITCH.
(both of them - the dog and the uneducated owner)


If the owner doesn't understand that she is a blind and irresponsible fool who deserves whatever happens! It is not your own breeding stock you need to worry about, this is not your problem. It is the females of the breed that need to be kept track of - if they are let loose without restraint, OH WELL!


"STUPID IS AS STUPID DO..."


~ any breeder knows that and makes no excuses or rationalizations. If she lets the bitch run free, she'll be lucky not to have a litter of COYOTES!!!

On that I stand firm.


The exercize of control does not stand on your plate - but on her own. If she is fool enough to let it run free she will be lucky if the damned mutt doesn't have KITTENS


We all know this as well as I do - control of breeding means watching the females of the herd and selecting a proper stud. If you let it run around all day without taking precautions it serves you right if it doesn't breed true.

 

Best idea yet.........reps sent!
Let it lay for a while, then grab the dog for a little free surgery.

 

Thanks for that Grewolf, I know it's not my fault, but I guess she doesn't see it that way? I'm not really sure, I truly believe she is completely ignorant, has the body of a 40 year old but the mind of a sheltered 15 yr old from the suburbs. Oh...and the coyotes ARE out here, last few days I've seen em' crossing the driveway on my way out, further down. It'd be a shame if they got her....seriously...

They don't take care of her, and she doesn't get any attention. She was an inside dog before they moved out here, and now she is all of a sudden thrown outside. She doesn't know that on cold nights to go get in the barn, or dig a hole, or how to get out of the wind. One night me and my wife came home late, it was 35 degrees and windy, cold clear night, and she was huddled up on the concrete porch, which is really just six 18" stepping stones with no roof, sides, or anything to block the wind. It pissed me off to no end.

We have two of our dogs outside 24/7, and they were inside dogs for a long while before that. I built a 10ftx20ft kennel, with what I like to call Chateau de Dog inside. The floor of the dog house is lined with 6" of hay, and then covered in blankets. They have shelter on all 4 sides and a doggy door. I built the roof a little high, and put a heat lamp (tripled wired and plenty of fail safes so it doesn't fall) to keep them warm. We love our dogs, they are our family.

To that, this lady just pisses me off in SO many ways.

I haven't even begun to tell about her young son, who may be 6-7? He is in love with my immediate neighbors wife. She works part time and is taking TWENTY ONE HOURS of school this semester, she's insane. He will come over to her house, and if she doesn't answer the door he will start banging on the side of the house (metal siding). Sometimes he will go and let THEIR dogs out of their kennel without even asking her. He is destructive and knows no boundaries. The best part happened yesterday, which has brought me to decide to have myself and my friend (this girls husband) to have a talk with this lady about her dog, AND her son. Yesterday....this kid goes to knocking on her door like always and she doesn't answer. Mid-terms are this week and she is studying. He then proceeds to knock on the walls of the house. When that doesn't work, HE TRIES TO WALK IN THE HOUSE, luckily her door was locked. Today, we locked our door for the first time in over a year when we left for work/school this morning.

All of this frustration, and they have only lived here for three weeks.

The older daughter that is supposed to be "watching" him apparently doesn't. When the mom is home, she doesn't seem to watch him either.

I'm very seriously thinking of ArdWrknTrk idea if they don't get her spaded, and taking her myself, then try and find her a better home. I can't call ASPCA because she is is fed and has water, and DOES have shelter...technically even though she doesn't always use it when she should...

 

In our area we have a leash law. If there are strays or dogs or cats wandering around and not on a leash, you can call and have them picked up. The owners could possibly be cited or fined. Getting them to enforce and pickup is usually for the birds though, unless something happens (like a dog bite or something of that nature).

 

That would make me a hypocrite though, and I try not to be that guy. I see what you are saying though, and if we lived in town we would for sure call the pound.

 

Great suggestion by Jim...absent the free/cheap spay neuter clinics...perhaps the neighbors could pool some funds and offer to have the job done for her.

 

I think you all ready know the answer to your problem. It is obvious that they don't care for her and sometimes responsible people need to do the right thing. Would the dog be better off where she is at or with someone else? It is your choice, considering the owner won't do anything about it.
If the woman asks if you have seen her dog, just shrug your shoulders and say "Coyotes maybe?" Good luck!

 

I'd go find an uncut stray, bring him over for a day or 3........................