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Old 03-06-2011, 04:30 PM
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advice on crew cab's

88 crew cab, front windows are power,back windows arent. i want 4 power windows. Do 90 something crews have power rear windows ? will 90 something doors fit an 88 ? is the wiring for power windows the same ?
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Old 03-06-2011, 06:17 PM
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My '89 is the same way.. front windows are both power, but rear doors are crank windows.. I don't think they were all power until 92+ ? You'd have to put new switch panels in your drivers door, and wire up the back ones seperately.. sounds like a lot of work for me.. I don't care for power windows, more to go wrong.. I wish all of my windows were hand crank..
 
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When I get done with this truck, it'll be close to a 2000 something dually for a fraction of the price, including being able to handle towing an stopping 25k lbs.(10k rear springs, 5k airlift bags, 4k front's). Reverse cams an gps on 7" screen, digital dash, heated seats, custom roof console w/4 speakers an dvd player. If there's enuff left in the budget, I may make it 4x4 w/electronic transfer case an d60.
 
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All the doors from 80-97 will interchange, but you could only get power rear windows from 95-97. You will need a COMPLETE window and lock harness from these years and the drivers door panel to wire it up
 
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As Brad pointed out, you will need a harness from a PW CC, along with the motors, a drivers PW CC door panel (not made in a 87-91 style, and OBSOLETE!!!! in a 92 up style) rear PW door panels ($220 pair on Ebay if you can find your color, they are also obsolete and a few NOS left available) and some wiring work to adapt the rear harness into your existing harness.

Unless you are really dying to use factory parts, and have a donor truck handy, I would suggest using a aftermarket PW kit, getting a couple 92-97 CC door panels off Ebay, mounting the dual control wherever you want it in the front (console, dash, etc) and then using the switches that will come in the NOS door panels in the back.

I am currently converting my 94 CC over to PW/PL using a donor harness from a 95 CC. If you want an idea what using/adapting factory parts from a donor looks like 1/2way thru, here you go



 
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thx for the pics ward, this is gonna be a pain in the b_ _ ls, isnt it
i'm also thinking about going to a psd or at least 460. Dont really think a 351 is gonna handle 20k lbs too good. All depends on the budget an if i can get donor trucks, especially for the psd
does the front driver door have a 4 window switch on 95-97's ? i already have 4 dr pl's
 
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Originally Posted by 88dually
thx for the pics ward, this is gonna be a pain in the b_ _ ls, isnt it
i'm also thinking about going to a psd or at least 460. Dont really think a 351 is gonna handle 20k lbs too good. All depends on the budget an if i can get donor trucks, especially for the psd
does the front driver door have a 4 window switch on 95-97's ? i already have 4 dr pl's
The 351w will be underpowered for that kind of load no doubt... You might have a look here:
fordcummins.com - Increase Horsepower with Ford Cummins Diesel conversion kits

They have all the adapters to put a cummins diesel into that old crew cab. A major power upgrade with the reliability 2nd to none!!!!

Also... You can wire in factory rear windows without the factory harness... All you need is the pannels, motors and guts for a power window... Once you have all the guts installed you have to run power off your fuse box to the rear switch... Then the switch can operate the window up and down... This is alot less work and allows you to have power windows... The only problem is that this is "independent wiring" which means you can't roll the rear windows down from the drivers seat... But then again you can't right now as it is...
 
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thx for the link, but a cummins conversion will eat most of my budget
 
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Originally Posted by 88dually
thx for the pics ward, this is gonna be a pain in the b_ _ ls, isnt it
i'm also thinking about going to a psd or at least 460. Dont really think a 351 is gonna handle 20k lbs too good. All depends on the budget an if i can get donor trucks, especially for the psd
does the front driver door have a 4 window switch on 95-97's ? i already have 4 dr pl's
The DS panel uses a 4 switch control, the switch is available, the cover for the switch is NOT. I have given up finding one, even though I have a CC 4switch door panel, and am instead using a 2switch panel and am going to mount the rear switches on the dash somewhere. As for the wiring, you can make your own harness if you have the factory wiring diagram. If you have a P&P JY, you can get most all the items you need there for not too much. Also to clarify... the rear door panels you have are for a PW CC?
 
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thx for the link, but a cummins conversion will eat most of my budget
Yeah I know it's expensive but thought I would throw it out there... Keep in mind the Ford PSD parts are hella expensive! injectors alone can cost up to $1200 if you need to replace them!
 
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ward, subford has the wiring diagrams most likely. Have you tryed internet jy search for the cover ? No, i have 4 door power locks
nstueve, is that a diy or mechanic price ? a shop around here wants that for high perf 5.0 injectors.
 
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ward, subford has the wiring diagrams most likely. Have you tryed internet jy search for the cover ? No, i have 4 door power locks
nstueve, is that a diy or mechanic price ? a shop around here wants that for high perf 5.0 injectors.
That's buy them yourself and diy... GB manufacturing on www.rockauto.com is the cheapest place I could find for return and rebuild injectors 157.79 each + S&H... and that's not incluiding the up front core charge assuming you'd send them back your old ones. Buy my calculations thats 1262.32+ S&H...

A-1 Cardone is $253.79 each for refurbs making it $2030.32 and thats also assuming you send cores back in...

I was rock bottom pricing... I don't think anyone can get refurb PSD injectors in for under $1200... I'm sure paying a shop for install of refurbs could cost you at least $2000 if not $3000...
 
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i could do a nice rebuild on a 460 for 3000
 
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i could do a nice rebuild on a 460 for 3000
and you'll still get about 4-8mpg with that gas monster... I'd spend $3000-$6000 and get a 5.9 cummins conversion and just be done with it. Cheaper parts and better more reliable power for the long haul. Not to mention your mpgs will be way better!

Also if your budget is low... You can rebuild a 7.3L Diesel and put a turbo on it later... Then you still get PSD power, mpgs, and cheaper parts.
 
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i dont know anything about diesels
 


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