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Old 02-19-2011, 01:00 PM
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92 f250 won't run when its cold

I have a 92 f250 with a 351w 5.8L auto. It has 175,000 miles on it. Two winters ago the issue arose. Start it in the morning and it would run like it was not fireing on all cylinders, it would clear up in a short time and run fine as long as it was warm. This winter the same but its gotten worse. It will start and miss but will not clear up even after it warms up as long as its cold outside. If i hold it at about 2000 rpm's it seams to be firing on all cylinders as soon as i leave off the gas it shuts off. Then it will only fire up if i hold it to the floor. Now if its a warmer day it fires up idles fine and drives fine. It started even in late fall when the evenings were cool. I have replaced the coil, distributor, model, fuel filter (6 months before winter), cap, rotor, ingition key switch, plugs, wires also 6 months ago, Air filter was cleaned. i don't drive this truck much, its mostly to haul fire wood and haul my derby cars around. I mostly only go short distances. One thing that comes to mind is sometimes i run a tank down to about 1/4 tank and will switch to the other tank, once that tank is down i switch back to the other tank and it will have more gas in it than when i switched off of it. I don't have a fuel pressure gague yet, but i have fuel pressure in the rail just don't exactly how much. I'm kinda exghusted with this truck, but i still like it and don't want to get rid of it. Any ideas would be greatly appreated Robert.
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:48 PM
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Most of the time you have a bad ECT sensor or ACT sensor and it sounds like the thermostat might be opening at too low temp in your case also.

You could try looking at codes but these two sometimes do not show as bad in the codes when they are bad.
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I haft to agree with the above post sounds like it is flooding the engine out. When holding it at WOT your turning the injectors off and allowing it to clear out. And when holding the RPMs up its getting enough air to keep itself running. So it leaves you with a bad ECT. The warmer weather allows the ECU to see a warmer temp. on ECT and thus doesnt flood itself out. Could be the IAT also. The problem of back fill the other tank is a bad return valve in the pump of which ever tank is back filling. I have the same problem with mine. Just use that tank first then the other and return to the first if I dont feel like filling up yet. Or you can replace the pump and should fix that issue.
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you could have some nasty gas , try some gas stabilizer !
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Not to sound stupid but what does ECT and ACT stand for? I'm fine with the problem with the tanks as long as its not my running issue.
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I've tried high test gas, additives. Tried both tanks from multiple gas stations never seamed to help.
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ECT: Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor.
ACT: Air Charge Temperature Sensor (may also be called Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor).
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I forgot that the last thing i changed was the coolant temp sensor. It was right by the upper rad hose on intake. Do i have to unhook the battery or something to reset the computer. I never did that until right now because someone borrowed by battery.
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Yes if you change a sensor you need to unhook the battery for about 30 minutes so it will relearn.
You do not have to unhook the battery if you change a Actuator.

Actuators = relays, solenoids & injectors.
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Going to charge up a spare battery i got here and try that. It should be cold enough to act up.
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I take it the ECT sensor you changed had two wires on it. The Engine Temp sender has one push on wire and goes to the gauge on the dash only.
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The one i changed had two wires and had a nice convenent quick disconnect. Was this the right one? Put a battery back in it and its the same thing. you can smell the gas its definity flooding itself. Should i look into replacing the ACT? Were abouts is it located?
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The ACT/IAT is located on the intake from the image I just pulled up it should be just behind the Dist. but I could be wrong never looked for one on a 351.
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Pull the hose off the top of the Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR) and see if fuel comes out the nipple on top when you turn on the key. If it does the FPR is bad
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I had a very similar issue with my truck last year, try unplugging the vacuum line to the EGR valve, if it makes it happier, you need a new EGR Vacuum solenoid.
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