All it will take is one turbo replacement and you can almost by a new nomally asperated engine!

I think the turbo when installed in pickups in stop and go driving and pulling trailers will not be as realiable as standard V8!

If you are going to trade frequently then you have warranty to back you up, the Eco Boost is not much problem, but the turbo to me is a added caveat to worry about for only a few more miles per gallon and power! I take the 5.0 and will be willing to pay more for it!

My motto is go to the garage before the showroom before buying!

70 MACH 1 351 C
59 Edsel Corsair
74 F100 xlt 360
99 F150 5.4
95 F750 429
2005 Taurus 3.0

 

Diesel soot is pretty nasty; it lodges in the air sacs in your lungs and can not be coughed out. There they cause long term damage, and can even cause cancer. Maybe the diesel emission control technology is not perfect now, but it is necessary. Today's diesel engines are a lot cleaner than they were just 10 years ago.

Motorheads like myself used to moan about the loss of lead tetra-ethyl in gasoline and all the problems that will cause. But lead vapors were also nasty poisons, and should not be emitted into the air like they were in the 60's and early 70's.

As we have seen with examples like the Coyote engine, we can now get great engines that don't have to spew the levels of poisons that the old engines did.

 

Unfortunately the R&D costs for the clean burning technology has rested in the laps of the everyday consumer instead of the trucking companies, ship builders, train manufacturers, etc. I'm well convinced that far more diesel and JP types fuels are burned commercially than privately.

 

You're right- the engines THEMSELVES are so much cleaner now that the use of particulate traps is only to get that "last bit" which does not amount to anything worth worrying about. The newer Diesel engines burn so clean that even those built in the last 10 years BEFORE the particulate traps were introduced produce next to no visible soot.
The particulate traps are causing more problems than they are solving thru greatly increased backpressure just before regeneration, and it's worse on those retrofitted because they can't regenerate on their own and must be cleaned out by the mechanic or replaced if it's gone too far. This is technology that has NOT been properly thought through. There must be a better way......

 

The turbos aren't as expensive as one might think.The retai price from Ford is $881.95 each, Tasca Fords price is $582.09 each.
If FoMoCo is selling crate engines that cheap, I'll take a few.

 

Some of these engines have two turbos not to mention the damage they cause!

I have heard some have to pay thousands to get it repaired and all the other damage!

 

I used to run my ranger 2000 2.5 with mobil 1 syn up to 15,000 miles and have the oil checked. The oil analysis came back with oil was still usable but acidic numbers were a little high. I see no reason not to run my oil changes up to 10,000 miles. I do have dual oil filters on my truck and every 5000 miles I would drop both filters and replace with new filters and top off with fresh oil. Is that cheating?

 

Im thinking on my new truck I will go with 5k, as that seemslike also a good point to rotate tires, keep them together. 10k just is too many miles on a truck to go without it IMO.

 

1st...the labs are not to be trusted, IIRR, none of the more popular ones are certified by their respective states and there have been numerous postings about multiple samples being sent under different names to the same labs with huge, varied results.

2nd...CD did a study about 10 years ago showing that at 1500 miles, the additives begine to break down & by 2500 miles they are pretty much gone....while base oil has improved, I don't think we are talking miracles here.

3rd while the engine can easily survive 10k durations, oil filters at 90 days (well documented) begine to exceed their filtering ability and most of the by-pass vales partially open during operation

4th What can't take the extended duration are the chain tensioners (hydraulically actuated).......