Airbags Installation VIDEO
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After seeing the first 8 minutes of Epic's video, I was ready to stand up and say NO WAY!!! Then he mentioned the fact that it took 6 hours and I felt alot better. My cousin asked me to help him install Firestone bags on his truck. I figured it would be a good training run because I wanted bags on my truck, too. We both have B&W hitches. The instructions were considerably lacking in clarity. Cuz and I are both farm boys with a better-than-average mechanical aptitude and at times we were scratching butts and heads at the same time. Had basically all the same problems that Disco Chicken outlined. We had to replace the 3/4" hitch frame bolt on the driver side with a longer one because there weren't enough threads showing after installing the bracket to consider it safe. We were also stymied by the fact that the bags weren't sitting level. He chose the manual inflate/deflate option. Took us 7 hours WITHOUT the compressor and manifold addition. This made me swear off on the Firestone product and I'm looking for something else that's not as complicated to install. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know.
#92
I would still entertain ideas on an alternative manufacturer that someone has had a positive experience with. Cuz says his bags have performed great, he hauls around 10,000 pounds worth of horses and trailer, even though the bladder looks a little mashed on the front side when he has them deflated to 5 pounds with no load.
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Epic...just installed my airbags. I too have the B&W hitch so was hoping it would be as straight forward as you showed in the video. But I came across something you did not mention so not sure if it was just me or you edited that part out.
You mentioned you needed to remove the large nut on Hitch side plate on the passenger side...that this would be reused to hold the airbag upper bracket in place. This was just as you mentioned. But you made no mention of having to remove the entire hitch side plate on the driver side to access the screw holding the DEF bracket to the frame. It is this screw that is to be replaced with a bolt to hold the airbag upper bracket along with the DEF bracket. I was not prepared for that and had to remove the wheel in order to get enough leverage on my wrench to break those bolts free. Did you do something different for the driver side airbag upper bracket?
Some other notes for others attempting this install.
1. I did not jack my truck up for this. I did the install by climbing under with the tires resting on the ground. Not much room under there. I'm feeling it today. If you did mind working under the truck with just jack stands, I'd recommend it.
2. In Epic's video, he is using a ratchet style box wrench. That would make this install go by so much faster. I used a socket wrench for as much as I could then switched to a basic box wrench. There are a lot of extra thread on those bolts so you'll be there a while. If you can only invest in one size, 14 mm is what is used the most in this kit.
3. As for the height for the lower brackets, I used the mounting for "most 4x4's" from the directions and it worked fine. I have an FX4 but felt if I used that setting the bracket would be too tall.
4. If you do have a B&W hitch, you'll need a 1-1/8 socket to remove those massive nuts.
I did not spring for the compressor and just ran the lines out the back to my bumper. Tested with 50 psi and no leaks, which I'm happy about. I'm way to sore to want to climb back under today. Will be pulling my horse trailer in a few weeks...that will be the first time I get to try them out.
Question for anyone...since I do not have the compressor and will have to inflate manually, has anyone tried the portable co2 cartridges they sell for bicycles? They have canisters that can be loaded into an assembly that allows multiple uses off one canister versus single use. But I believe the air comes out very cold as it expands. Will that damage the nylon tubing running to the airbags, or the airbags themselves?
You mentioned you needed to remove the large nut on Hitch side plate on the passenger side...that this would be reused to hold the airbag upper bracket in place. This was just as you mentioned. But you made no mention of having to remove the entire hitch side plate on the driver side to access the screw holding the DEF bracket to the frame. It is this screw that is to be replaced with a bolt to hold the airbag upper bracket along with the DEF bracket. I was not prepared for that and had to remove the wheel in order to get enough leverage on my wrench to break those bolts free. Did you do something different for the driver side airbag upper bracket?
Some other notes for others attempting this install.
1. I did not jack my truck up for this. I did the install by climbing under with the tires resting on the ground. Not much room under there. I'm feeling it today. If you did mind working under the truck with just jack stands, I'd recommend it.
2. In Epic's video, he is using a ratchet style box wrench. That would make this install go by so much faster. I used a socket wrench for as much as I could then switched to a basic box wrench. There are a lot of extra thread on those bolts so you'll be there a while. If you can only invest in one size, 14 mm is what is used the most in this kit.
3. As for the height for the lower brackets, I used the mounting for "most 4x4's" from the directions and it worked fine. I have an FX4 but felt if I used that setting the bracket would be too tall.
4. If you do have a B&W hitch, you'll need a 1-1/8 socket to remove those massive nuts.
I did not spring for the compressor and just ran the lines out the back to my bumper. Tested with 50 psi and no leaks, which I'm happy about. I'm way to sore to want to climb back under today. Will be pulling my horse trailer in a few weeks...that will be the first time I get to try them out.
Question for anyone...since I do not have the compressor and will have to inflate manually, has anyone tried the portable co2 cartridges they sell for bicycles? They have canisters that can be loaded into an assembly that allows multiple uses off one canister versus single use. But I believe the air comes out very cold as it expands. Will that damage the nylon tubing running to the airbags, or the airbags themselves?
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... But you made no mention of having to remove the entire hitch side plate on the driver side to access the screw holding the DEF bracket to the frame. It is this screw that is to be replaced with a bolt to hold the airbag upper bracket along with the DEF bracket. I was not prepared for that and had to remove the wheel in order to get enough leverage on my wrench to break those bolts free. Did you do something different for the driver side airbag upper bracket?
Also great tip on the ratcheting box end wrench. I kind of take those for granted now and wonder how I ever got along without them for so long.
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You're absolutely right, I did not mention that. It is an issue as you stated. I didn't have to remove the plate entirely though, I removed the farthest back bolt and just loosened the other a bit and had enough clearance to get the bracket bolt up in there. It was tight, but saved the hassle you described. Sorry 'bout that...
Also great tip on the ratcheting box end wrench. I kind of take those for granted now and wonder how I ever got along without them for so long.
Also great tip on the ratcheting box end wrench. I kind of take those for granted now and wonder how I ever got along without them for so long.
#99
Installed mine a couple of weeks ago with very little trouble. One thing I did was to remove the wheels and then the spare tire. Yes the which holes to use for the lower brackets is confusing. After removing the spare it was pretty easy to sit under the truck and that helped the process a lot.
#100
I know this is an old thread but I have a couple pertintent questions. Finally getting my airbags delivered today, albeit probably a little too late. A year of hauling near-capacity loads on rough roads has already taken a toll on the leaf springs. There is a definite sag now. Hopefully my install will go better than the one we did on my cousins truck. I ordered the compressor option, so where is the best place to get power for it? I have outfitter switches but would like to reserve those for future planned upgrades. Has anyone explored mounting the compressor under the hood and running the intake line inside the cab? Would the heat and oily dirt become a problem? Also, where did you mount the gauge and switch bracket? I don't want to rip it out with a size 11 everytime I get in and out of the truck but I don't want it look bad either. Thanks in advance if you have any suggestions. I plan on installing sometime next week and I'll update on the install.
#101
I mounted my compressor and tank under the bed on the right rear and fed the intake line into the back of the cab.
For the gauges I mounted them in the center console pocket on the driver's side. I made a mounting box out of some fiberboard and some spraypaint (shoulda gone with black) and ended up not having to make any holes inside the truck.
Love my airbags. They leveled out the ride, put my headlights back on the road, and got rid of the chatter I got on takeoff with a heavy load.
Good luck
For the gauges I mounted them in the center console pocket on the driver's side. I made a mounting box out of some fiberboard and some spraypaint (shoulda gone with black) and ended up not having to make any holes inside the truck.
Love my airbags. They leveled out the ride, put my headlights back on the road, and got rid of the chatter I got on takeoff with a heavy load.
Good luck
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I probably would have gone with the OEM Reese if it would have been available when I ordered in 4/2010. In retrospect, turns out I really like the B&W and it's adjustable feature. I need the extra 2 inches of adjustment with my trailer. It's also easily installed by myself. I think the Reese is pretty heavy.