Hi, I recently purchased a F350 flat bed dually that was used as a potato truck.the body and interior are in pretty good shape,the 4 speed transmission and steering and suspension are also good.I need tires(I am planning on running 7.00 16 military offset treads on the dually wheels and 7.00 LT bias plys on the front wheels)and I an completely redoing the brakes which are very played out.The 292 Y block will start and run fine but needs a water pump,gaskets,carb rebuild,tune up components,belts ,hoses and other stuff a engine that has sat in a pasture forever might need.
I helped my friend restore his Maverick and he gave me a 1964 223 six.bored .40 over,new pistons,cam,polished crank,bearings,cylinder head redone,new push rods,starter water pump etc never started brand new on the engine stand.The 292 runs and is in the truck but I dont know the mileage or maintenence history and am hesitant to put money into it to have it throw a rod or some thing.I know the 350s came with 223's and 4 speeds.I have a 223 bell housing that went to a 64 ford truck three speed manual.What difficulties coud there be in this swap?is the bellhousing the right one?exhaust issues?I have a different raditor with th inlet /outlets in the right place .I dont care about going fast in this truck,it will be used for hauling firewood,rocks,trash and scrap.I think the six will have plenty of low and slow for me Thanks!

 

you will need the 4 speed bell.and of course the right front mount.simple swap.you can use the 292 flywheel if you need to.

 

Didn't you mean to say the correct front mount, since there is no right...or left?

 

Don't throw the Y in the scrap, That's worth a few bucks and a good rebuilder for someone.

Two nuts and you can pop a valve cover off the Y....If is pretty clean inside, might wind up being worth it for you, or somone else to take a chance, and do belts, hoses, valve adjustment, tune up etc, and run it.

If its a sludge bucket inside, plan on using /selling it for a good rebuilder.

Greg

 

I'm wanting to do the exact opposite! My 64 F100 has a tired 223 w 3speed column shift. I pulled a 292 from a 56+/- farm truck. It was big. At least a 1 ton. Engine was supposedly replaced with slightly newer car engine. I pulled it with a 5 speed floor shift.

I'm hoping to put the 292 in the 64 and use the bellhousing that's on the 292 and mate it with a 3 speed trans from a 71 that I scrapped.

I have a 53 Customline, so I guess I should save the 223 and 3 speed for parts for a 215 I6.

 

Good idea Greg,sometimes I get carried away and dont check the simple things first.It would be much easier to leave the 292 in place.If it is ok then I can just leave the rebuilt 223 sitting on the engine stand until I need it.There is definetly plenty of other things to work on for this truck.I like that it is short bed dually,looks like a stocky little bulldog.

 

I'm hoping to put the 292 in the 64 and use the bellhousing that's on the 292 and mate it with a 3 speed trans from a 71 that I scrapped.

A 71 trans will not bolt to a 292 bell.

Garbz

 

Maybe I'm missing something here.. A Maverick would have never had a 223 as factory. Mavericks would have come with a 200 or a 302.

Are you sure it's a 223 and not a 170/200?

Or maybe I read it wrong and your buddy gave you a 223 he had around in exchange for your help with the Maverick... That makes more sense!

 

My friend Dave bought me the 223 for helping him with the Maverick,I welded patches for his lower quarters,fenders,floorpans and trunk and helped remove and install the drivetrain and suspension.I like doing this stuff anyway so it was great to get the rebuilt 223 as a gift.the 223 was from a F100 restoration where the owner of the truck rebuilt the 223 and then opted for a v8 crate motor.the 223 has a very specific application and not so much resale value so we got a really good deal in proportion to how much was spent rebuilding it.I am using this truck as a truck the six is fine for me.I do like a v8 so having the two engines has made it diffcult to decide which way to go.If I do use the six with my 4 speed will the bell housing from the 292 work or do I need one specifically for the 223/four speed set up?Thanks

 

I find my 292 lacking as it is, I absolutely would not want a smaller engine unless it was my only option.

 

If the 292 is running fine, leave it. Don't go through the trouble of swapping because it might do something.
Can you be sure of the quality of the work that went into the 223? People have vastly different views on the definition of rebuilt. What some people call rebuilt, I call freshened up.
Work on whichever other things need attention. If the engine starts to actually have problems, that is the time to decide what will be done.
I am with some of the others here, if you make a swap, go bigger, much bigger. Smaller, and even similar sized just isn't worth the time.

 

Crap! Will I have to use the original 3 speed from the 223, or put in that big Clarke 5 speed? I could just see that big e-brake drum wearing a hole in my floorboard!!!!

I have a couple of 302's. I considered those, but decided I would be happier with a closer-to-stock type of engine.

 

Good call. Most 302s, as assembled by Ford will not produce any more torque and so far, I have yet to hear of a 302 powered 61-66 pickup that gets better mileage than I get with my 292. That's why I say if you're going to swap, make it count, 390, 460, either of those in a stroker variation, something that will provide a significant change to make it worth the effort, although I'd rather see the 292 stay in use.