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Old 01-17-2011, 11:39 PM
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If you are going to get a new cylinder head, make sure that it has the extra threads to prevent the spark plug spitting. I believe the 2002 model year fixed that problem, but be sure you get at least one from a 2003. Mine (I think) has the more threads on the spark plug compared to the ones designed on the '01.
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I'm not fully understanding your post on the repair bill. BUT I would definetly have them re ring every piston and all new bearings.

I wonder why it needs a new cylinder head? I've never seen a n/a non modified engine destroy a cylinder head from detonation. Cracked pistons or burned valves maybe.
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sorry to see you are going thru this. As a rule (my rule), when I'm towing I use premium (min 89 octane, in CA that might be 91 octane). Premium varies from state to state, some have 93 octane, others call 89 premium. (This may start a whole new debate) You sometimes don't know what you are going to get, even at the name brand fuel stations. Far be it from me to lecture you on that, what you've been doing up to now has worked and it sounds like there may be other extenuating circumstances related to your situation. Good luck.

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I'd be calling Bosch and COMPLAINING VERY LOUDLY and possibly calling a lawyer. But this is not an OK to organize a law suit on FTE (read the guidelines)
No, I wouldn't involve FTE and I don't think a lawsuit would fly. The damages are less than $5K so it would have to be small claims and it would likely cost me more than $4k in aggravation to get them to small claims.

Plus there are plenty of postings around showing other brands of plugs failing because of stupid FI settings so it would quickly turn into me having to prove the FI wasn't the problem. Even 5 star seemed to think it was the FI instead of the plug.

If I had kept up with posts on the V10 forum I would have noticed people bad mouthing the Bosch plugs and swapped them. Probably would have had the same result but at least I wouldn't have to read posts about how bad they are :-)!
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I'm not fully understanding your post on the repair bill. BUT I would definetly have them re ring every piston and all new bearings.

I wonder why it needs a new cylinder head? I've never seen a n/a non modified engine destroy a cylinder head from detonation. Cracked pistons or burned valves maybe.
Debris from the failed spark plug ruined the valve seat. I thought they were yanking me so I Googled and quickly found it does happen.To add insult to injury the melted electrode pulled the threads out on it's way. That could be easily fixed but they said the valve seat couldn't.

I asked about re-ringing all of them and they said the compression\leak down tests were good and they didn't see a reason to do it. Since I offered and they said it wasn't necassary I figure it wasn't. It would have been easy money for them since the pan would already be off.

I don't understand how the cylinder can be OK but that was the first thing they reported after removing the head.
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FYI, and I'm not trying to give legal advice, but from what I know, if they don't show up to small claims, you get the judgment in your favor. However, if they do show up, like you said, likely a losing case and not worth the headache.

Sorry to hear about your bad luck there. Thanks for sharing it. I'll keep it in mind when I'm pullin.
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I don't remember how, but my bro melted a piston on his Jeep and the cylinder was still all good, so I'd just thank the truck gods and count my blessings that it wasn't worse than it is. Even though it's pretty bad and it sucks.
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sorry to see you are going thru this. As a rule (my rule), when I'm towing I use premium (min 89 octane, in CA that might be 91 octane). Premium varies from state to state, some have 93 octane, others call 89 premium. (This may start a whole new debate) You sometimes don't know what you are going to get, even at the name brand fuel stations. Far be it from me to lecture you on that, what you've been doing up to now has worked and it sounds like there may be other extenuating circumstances related to your situation. Good luck.

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That seems like a good rule! I think I will adopt it after this. I didn't see an engine with compression this low needing better gas but at $.10 or $.15 per gallon difference it seems like cheap insurance.

I am gald to see the reaction on the forum. It seems unreal to me, hard to believe actually, that this happened to me but my mechanic friend builds big block engines for Colorado river boats and hot rods. He said he has seen similar problems and 5 Star didn't seem too surprised.
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I don't remember how, but my bro melted a piston on his Jeep and the cylinder was still all good, so I'd just thank the truck gods and count my blessings that it wasn't worse than it is. Even though it's pretty bad and it sucks.

Craig;
Thanks, at this point I am looking for the silver lining! I keep telling myself it could be worse - cylinder damage or more than one plug failed!

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Definitely coulda been worse. Again, sorry for your bad luck, but hey, you'll probably feel like you got a brand new truck after it's over. Likely run better faster harder. At least it'll feel like it does. Get in there and detail it so you can get the new car smell too.
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Definitely coulda been worse. Again, sorry for your bad luck, but hey, you'll probably feel like you got a brand new truck after it's over. Likely run better faster harder. At least it'll feel like it does. Get in there and detail it so you can get the new car smell too.
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I like your attitude! I can't believe how much I miss it. I don't drive it except to tow the toyhauler (I do offroad it when we camp in the desert or dunes) but that is when it's sitting in the drive. Now that I don't have it I seem to want to jump in and go climb a hill or something off road!
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I like your attitude! I can't believe how much I miss it. I don't drive it except to tow the toyhauler (I do offroad it when we camp in the desert or dunes) but that is when it's sitting in the drive. Now that I don't have it I seem to want to jump in and go climb a hill or something off road!
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I hear ya. You always miss your baby when she's out sick. Heck, you gotta have somethin' to hold that driveway down in place.
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I feel your pain I too was towing my toy-hauler the day after Christmas and my 2005 v10 went south on me also. Temperature was about 38 degree going uphill at about 4500 when it let go.
What happened to yours?

I thought these engines were suppose to be able to run 4K all day long under load.

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Yep, that's disturbing. Sounds like they blew up while doing what they're designed for. Were you chipped, or stock?
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IDK the issues I've heard/read of people having issues with Bosch plugs I wouldn't rule the plug out as the culprit. I just know I'm never using Bosch products on my truck. That said the factory tuning is running the ragged edge of Stoich.
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