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Old 12-23-2010, 01:28 PM
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2011 F250 6.2 gas and 5th wheel towing

HI - Just pondering trading my 03 F250/6.0 psd with 50k miles for a 2011 6.2 gas F250. Is anyone out there towing a 5th camper with a 6.2? My 28' weighs under 10k. Just wonering if it will have enough guts. It has enough hp but I'll be loosing some torque here. I now get 11mpg and plenty of power when hooked up making trips from Ma. to the lower Fl. keys. Love the new diesel but that 8k option is a killer
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Moved to 6.2L Boss forum.

Wayne, I moved your thread to the 6.2 forum. Several of the folks here have the new 6.2 and have been towing with them. They should be able to give you some good "seat of the pants" opinions about its towing capabilities.

Also, Mike with 5 Star Tuning has one with which he tows a 10k lb. fifth wheel. He has also developed some tunes for the 6.2 with great success. If you'll look through the 6.2 forum, you'll find some of his posts where he's posted video of towing his 5th wheel with his 6.2.

These two will get you started:

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Thanks John - I see the towing info,
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Tow Capacity

I too wonder if I should have gone with the 6.7. I bought the 6.2 with the intent of conventional towing around 10k. I have since decided on a Cougar toy hauler 5th wheel that has a gross rating about 12.3k. I believe my overall loaded weight on the truck will be in the 12-12.5k range. I am thinking around 2k pin weight.
With the 3.73, Michelin E rated tires and perhaps some beefing up of the suspension, I am asking myself if mine will be enough truck for that load.
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The 4.30's definitely would've helped, but how often are you towing (daily, weekly, etc)? If alot, yeah I'd probably recommend going diesel. If 5-10 times a year, then I wouldn't bother. After attending a couple Ohio events, I have no doubt the 6.2 is a very capable machine. That combined with the 6spd trans is a great combination. The last trailer we used at the Ohio even earlier this year weighed in at 16,500lbs. It was a standard dump trailer (not a gooseneck) with W/D hitch on it.

The majority of my driving is empty, a diesel wouldn't like that I wasn't using it to its fullest potential.

Plus my oil changes are like $30...no fuel filters to change...no questioning the quality of the fuel I'm getting...etc...
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I have been looking into the 5th wheel thing myself. I bought my truck a year ago next month, and just now starting thinking about buying a 5th wheel for taking trips. This got me researching what my truck's capacity REALLY is.

I may be mistaken, but I think the GVWR is the same among all the F-250 models...6.2 or 6.7. The only difference is GCWR. The higher GCWR gives you a higher towing capacity, as long as you can keep the truck itself light. Using the calculator and truck info on the following links, you can see that once you load your truck with a full tank of gas (35 gallons), 4 full size people, and a 20%-25% pin weight ratio, your towing capacity ends up being limited to the GVWR rating, not the GCWR.

In fact, the 6.7 might actually lose out to the 6.2 in this aspect. This is because the 6.7 curb weight is estimated at 7443, while the 6.2 is 6787 (crew cab)...and thats before you put a drop of gas or a driver in the front seat.

Only if you can keep the pin weight down does the more expensive 6.7 let you tow more....LEGALLY.

Now for bumper pull, its all about the GCWR.

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I pull a 5th wheel with my 6.2. It's a Jayco Eagle 30.5 DBSA that's 9,960 packed to camp. Pulls just fine. I get about 8-9 towing. Plenty of power, but uses a lot of gas to do it.
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I have a 2011 6.2 F-250 crew cab 4wd with 4:30's and pull an open range fiver that weighs 9995 empty and is 12.5 feet tall. I pulled it 1250 miles two weeks ago and it pulled great. I was very impressed with the way the truck handled. My average speed was 65 and I averaged 8.7 mpg hand calculated. The terrain was rolling to hilly, pulling from East Tennessee to the Florida gulf coast.
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I have been looking into the 5th wheel thing myself. I bought my truck a year ago next month, and just now starting thinking about buying a 5th wheel for taking trips. This got me researching what my truck's capacity REALLY is.

I may be mistaken, but I think the GVWR is the same among all the F-250 models...6.2 or 6.7. The only difference is GCWR. The higher GCWR gives you a higher towing capacity, as long as you can keep the truck itself light. Using the calculator and truck info on the following links, you can see that once you load your truck with a full tank of gas (35 gallons), 4 full size people, and a 20%-25% pin weight ratio, your towing capacity ends up being limited to the GVWR rating, not the GCWR.

In fact, the 6.7 might actually lose out to the 6.2 in this aspect. This is because the 6.7 curb weight is estimated at 7443, while the 6.2 is 6787 (crew cab)...and thats before you put a drop of gas or a driver in the front seat.

Only if you can keep the pin weight down does the more expensive 6.7 let you tow more....LEGALLY.

Now for bumper pull, its all about the GCWR.

Fifth Wheel Weight Calculator

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...Pickups_SB.pdf

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_SD_Specs.pdf
After checking the builders link, it appears the only real difference in the 250 and 350 models is the rear axle and rear suspension. That is unless you consider the dually models.
I am wondering if a spring upgrade and airbags would make a large difference.
I agree that the GVWR is a bit light and does not leave much room for pin weights that approaches 2k+.
I pulled a conventional this weekend and believe it was close to 11k. The rear end was down a bit and the front up. It was a bit loose going down the road. Had to really drive.
Great links and thanks

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I pulled a conventional this weekend and believe it was close to 11k. The rear end was down a bit and the front up. It was a bit loose going down the road. Had to really drive.
Great links and thanks

What kind of weight distribution system were you using? Did it have sway control?

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What kind of weight distribution system were you using? Did it have sway control?

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Straight off the hitch. I am still a bit torn between a conventional or fiver. If I buy a large conventional I will definitely go with a distribution hitch and I really appreciate the recommendation. I realize there are many manufacturers so hearing from you good folks regarding your experiences is a big help.
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Unhappy 6.2 power

Anyone know why fords 6.2 is 411hp in a 150 and only 316 hp in a f350 that is rated to haul and tow more,My current v10 is 365 hp,Makes it hard for me to want to trade up.Very few upgrade options.Iwould rather have a ecoboost.
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Anyone know why fords 6.2 is 411hp in a 150 and only 316 hp in a f350 that is rated to haul and tow more,My current v10 is 365 hp,Makes it hard for me to want to trade up.Very few upgrade options.Iwould rather have a ecoboost.
The F150 has 411hp because it has a different cam and tuned differently. The f250 6.2 is rated for 385hp. The f350 might be rated lower, because they are taking the HP rating at a different rpm...but it still has the 385hp that the f250 does.

If memory serves me correct, the 6.8L V10 has more HP and torque than the 6.2...but not by a whole lot. Plus, with the newer trucks you get a 6-speed transmission and the newer setup gets better mpg.
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