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Old 12-20-2010, 06:10 AM
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Pondering...6.0+toys, or 6.7L

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I'll be in the market for a new truck in the next couple months, and I plan to buy a diesel. I originally began looking at the new 6.7L trucks, as I think Ford hit a home run with the new platform. However, buying a first run of an engine always is a risk. I had a thought about buying a low mileage 07 6.0L and making it ultra dependant and get more power out of it at the same time. Power would be used for towing, I'm not into speeding and racing... So, I figure 50+g for the new 6.7L truck, if I can find a low mileage 6.0L for less than 30g, would it be anywhere near feasable? How much work will it need to make it ultra reliable?

I realize that I won't have warranty, it'll be an older truck, older technology and all, but I'm interested in hearing what the experienced ones among us have to say...

This will be my first diesel powered vehicle.

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Old 12-20-2010, 06:17 AM
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06-07 6.0 were better than the 03-05 6.0's, but I'd still take the 6.7 stock over a modded 6.0 any day.
 
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Id save the 20+ grand and get the 6.0. Youll be able to make it reliable while having money left over. And depending how you do it, your "07" could have a warrenty. Most 07 trucks will have a warrenty for another year. On top of that, you could get the ford ESP which is what i did and be covered till 200k.. Plus the 07 MO has all the "updates" compared to all the earlier years of the 6.0

With that said, to make a 6.0 reliable, it aint that expensive compared to buying a 55 grand truck.. Plus you get to have thos toys that you were wanting hahaha
 
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This comes down to your personal philosophy more than anything. If you like tinkering on your own truck, and are willing to put in your own time along with the money, the 6.0 could be a good thing. You would have the last engine that doesn't need DPF or DEF, and you won't have to worry about warranty issues when you modify it. Like you said, you'll be buying an older truck, and will be on the hook for all the things that wear out due to mileage and age regardless of what engine it carries. This has to become a hobby more than just transportation. And if you need the truck to make your living, fugetaboutit.

If you can't do all that work yourself, or don't have the time to do it, then this will be a money pit.
 
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6.7 hands down, just so much nicer of a truck all around. If I could afford one I would be out of my 6.0 as fast as I could be.
 
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It sounds like the new engine is doing well and getting good milleage per gallon. I'd go for the new truck.
 
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6.0 or Toys

Get the 6.7. Stay away for the 6.0. Get a used Trailer to recoup the cost differents. The millege is outstanding on the new 6.7, it better then I every got with my 6.0. It will pay you back in better millege and far less issuse. Sorry the 6.0 is a dog with fleas that bits hard.
 
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Thanks for all your replies. I guess another question would be "How much would it cost to make the 6.0L reliable and able to produce similar power to the 6.7?" I believe the head bolts/studs were the most common failure correct? As far as warranty, I'm sure it'd be null and void once a person started modifying the truck to any extent. Anyone have an idea how much it would end up costing for the necessary modifications? I'm able to do a lot of stuff, not entirely incompetent with mechanical stuff, but often its better off someone elses time and my money so I can be profitable doing my own work if you know what I mean. As I said earlier, it would be near 30g to find the right low mileage truck... If the modifications would add up to anywhere near 20g, it wouldn't be worth considering the 6.0, especially once you have no warranty...
 
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Originally Posted by 96sherm
Thanks for all your replies. I guess another question would be "How much would it cost to make the 6.0L reliable and able to produce similar power to the 6.7?" I believe the head bolts/studs were the most common failure correct? As far as warranty, I'm sure it'd be null and void once a person started modifying the truck to any extent. Anyone have an idea how much it would end up costing for the necessary modifications? I'm able to do a lot of stuff, not entirely incompetent with mechanical stuff, but often its better off someone elses time and my money so I can be profitable doing my own work if you know what I mean. As I said earlier, it would be near 30g to find the right low mileage truck... If the modifications would add up to anywhere near 20g, it wouldn't be worth considering the 6.0, especially once you have no warranty...
Studs are $350, EGR delete, can range from 225-400, Oil cooler, im guessing below $400.

They sell kits on ebay for like $1300 to bullet proof your 6.0.. Alls you gotta do then is pay for the labor to install.

Then add a chip for the power by SCT
 
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My old 05 F450 6.0 was just in the dealer last month for the 3rd set of head gaskets. ARP's were installed after the first ones let go. The dealer service adviser told me about it when I was getting my seat heater fixed.
 
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because they FORD never checked the heads for flatness
 
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This has to become a hobby more than just transportation. And if you need the truck to make your living, fugetaboutit.

I re-read your post, and this pretty much answers my question, solves my delimma...
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 06:32 PM
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I bought my o6 6.0 because the 6.4 were too new for me at the time
I bought mine 2 years and 40,000 mile ago
it took Me on a 3000 mile road trip and multiple vacations ,long distant work trips
that and to worl everyday up too 200 miles round trip

Hasn't let me down yet

I have no interest in the Mexican motor or adding urea

if it gets stolen tonight I would probably get a 6.4 and dump the DPF and regen
only because low mile 6.0's are getting hard to find and the 6.4 seems to have done well if u adress it's issues
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 07:16 PM
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My 06' F-350 Six-O has also been great so far 55k plus miles now,,,With the cold weather here now ,,,,she really likes to be plugged in,,some days it was down to 8 degrees f,,,I started it one day in the 20's,,not plugged in,,, she did not like it,,,,even skipped on me a bit,,,Rutt-Roe,,,being plugged in make the difference, even just an hour or 2 helps!

I tell you what guys,,,if my 6.0 starts giving me trouble(is a given by what everyone says),,,,My 06' F-350 is going to get a Heart transplant,,,Can you say " 12 Valve" !!!
 
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Old 12-20-2010, 07:19 PM
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did they make a 12 valve in 06?

I have to swap to a same or newer motor because of emision rules so I am inline for a common rail I beleive
 


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