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Old 12-13-2010, 10:05 PM
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When EXACTLY did the 3 Valve 5.4L come out?

The '04 in my signature was built in January of 2004. I've heard a bunch of BS about whether it's a 2v or 3v. Owners manual says 3v, but I got called out on it earlier, so I wanted to start this thread to settle it once and for all. Any dead give-aways as to what engine it is? I'm really not trusting the owners guide right now.
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When did it come out or when did they put it in a F250?
The F-150 got the 3V in 04. Not sure about the F-250
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The '04 in my signature was built in January of 2004. I've heard a bunch of BS about whether it's a 2v or 3v. Owners manual says 3v, but I got called out on it earlier, so I wanted to start this thread to settle it once and for all. Any dead give-aways as to what engine it is? I'm really not trusting the owners guide right now.
'04 F250/F350 had the 2V. NONE of those got the 3V until '05, and the change was accompanied by the Torqshift trans. If you've ever driven a 3V, you'd immediately know the difference and not confuse it with it's 2V brother. They're night and day different.
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Was variable cam timing only a 3v thing, or did 2v's get the same treatment at some point?
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Was variable cam timing only a 3v thing, or did 2v's get the same treatment at some point?
2V's 4.6L's, 5.4L's, and 6.8L's never had VCT. None of them. The 3V 6.8L also does not have VCT.
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Alrighty. Thanks for the help Johnny, and Phil. I appreciate the advice.
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Ok this is a good thread!

If the 3v 6.8 v10 didn't come with a vct can it easily be swappped for a 5.4 2v? Or a 6.8 2v?
Someday soon the 5.4 is coming out of my excursion either a 2v v10 is going in or something better.Me personally donot like the 2v v10. But a 3v now thats sounds like something I might be alittle more interested in
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Ok this is a good thread!

If the 3v 6.8 v10 didn't come with a vct can it easily be swappped for a 5.4 2v? Or a 6.8 2v?
Someday soon the 5.4 is coming out of my excursion either a 2v v10 is going in or something better.Me personally donot like the 2v v10. But a 3v now thats sounds like something I might be alittle more interested in
The Cam Position Sensor is on the opposite bank on the 3V 6.8L vs the 2V 6.8L.
I have not looked into whether the cam gears could be swapped that would allow you to use the 2V's Cam gear and CPS on the 3V, so I do not know if that's a feasible idea or not.
I honestly prefer the 3V myself, but IMO-swapping in a torqshift would be a much more useful and effective. I've been looking into the possibility of using an '05 E-Series PCM in our Excursion and swapping in a torqshift.
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Couldn't extending the cam positioning harness work?
Sorry for the thread jack.
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Couldn't extending the cam positioning harness work?
Sorry for the thread jack.
It's not that simple. The CPS reports the position of the camshaft in relation to bank 1 on a 3V, and bank 2 on a 2V.
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. . . Sorry for the thread jack.
Don't worry about it. I'm learning stuff from this as well, so carry on
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2005,and btw thay are turds with there stuck plug problems,just sayin
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2005,and btw thay are turds with there stuck plug problems,just sayin
You're referring to the 3v engines, correct?
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