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Old 12-11-2010, 07:23 PM
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99 Expedition stuck in four wheel drive..help!

I have a 99 Expediton that is stuck in 4wheel drive. The truck is in a major bind. It seems as if it could be stuck in between awd and 4x4. Indicator light is not on and there is no power to the switch in side the truck. Fusea are all fine and there is power every where else but inside at the switch. This problem just began, started off with the starter engaging ramdomly then a few of the indicator lights in the dash and the radio would kick on and off. Many crazy electrical things started to happen. I did not even put it in 4 wheel from a4wd it happened on its own. Now can not even hardly turn the truck and it shakes something terrible at about 35mph but once at a high speed it does not shake. The rpms are in normal range while driving but making turns and manuvering makes it feel like I am about to rip the front diff. right out of it. All of the problems with the indicator lights and radio have stopped but still have this issue with 4x4. HELP!!!
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Old 12-11-2010, 07:45 PM
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Did you check fuse #23?

The Vehicle Does Not Shift Between A4WD and 4WD Modes Properly
4WD mode switch.
Circuitry.
CJB Fuse 23 (10A).
A4WD clutch relay/circuit.
Contact plate sensors A, B, C and D circuits.
Transfer case shift motor/circuit.
Transfer case shift relays.
Transfer case mechanism.
GEM.
GO to Pinpoint Test B .

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Principles of Operation

The automatic 4-wheel drive A4WD system is a full time 4-wheel drive system with an electronic shift 4x4 system that allows the operator to choose between three different 4x4 modes. The operator can switch between A4WD, and 4WD high mode at any speed, and 4WD low mode. To engage or disengage low range, the vehicle speed must be less than 5 kph (3 mph) , the brake depressed, and the transmission must be in NEUTRAL.

In A4WD, the generic electronic module (GEM) varies the torque split between front and rear drivelines by controlling the transfer case clutch. The transfer case clutch allows for slight speed differences between the front and rear driveshafts which normally occurs when negotiating a corner on dry pavement. When the rear wheels are overpowered, the GEM detects this slip condition, and the duty cycle to the transfer case clutch is increased until the speed difference between driveshafts is reduced.

The 4WD mode switch is a rotary switch which allows the vehicle operator to choose between A4WD, 4WD high, and low range positions. There is no A4WD lamp, and the 4x4 lamp is controlled by the GEM and tells the owner that the vehicle is in 4x4 high mode. The LOW RANGE lamp is controlled by the PCM.

The vehicle speed signal is hardwired between the powertrain control module (PCM) and the GEM, speed control, overhead message center, air suspension, and EVO steering. The instrument cluster also receives the speed signal, but receives it over the standard corporate protocol (SCP) communication network. The PCM determines vehicle speed from the output shaft speed (OSS) sensor which is hardwired directly to the PCM.

The Hall effect sensors are mounted to the transfer case and are used to determine the speed of the front and rear driveshafts.

The shift motor sense plate, an integral part of the electric shift motor, is used to inform the GEM what mode the transfer case is actually in.

The digital transmission range (DTR) sensor, located on the left side of the transmission, informs the GEM of the transmission gear position.

The 4x4 shift motor relay is a module containing two relays which, under the control of the GEM, shift the transfer case shift motor between the three 4WD modes.

The torque on demand (TOD) relay is used to activate the A4WD clutch within the transfer case by the GEM. This relay controls the torque split between the front and rear axles.

The throttle position signal is hardwired from the PCM to the GEM. The GEM uses the throttle position to anticipate a rear wheel slip condition when the vehicle is in A4WD.
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Old 12-11-2010, 08:33 PM
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Yes fuse 23 is fine.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:20 PM
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To engage or disengage low range, the vehicle speed must be less than 5 kph (3 mph) , the brake depressed, and the transmission must be in NEUTRAL.

This information should be in bold.

I just had my Expy lock itself into 4 Low while backing up, couldn't figure out why it wouldn't unlock while in PARK.

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To engage or disengage low range, the vehicle speed must be less than 5 kph (3 mph) , the brake depressed, and the transmission must be in NEUTRAL.

This information should be in bold.

I just had my Expy lock itself into 4 Low while backing up, couldn't figure out why it wouldn't unlock while in PARK.

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Need help with a similar issue.

I have a 1998 ford f250 stuck in 4-lo.

There are 2 (relays I think) on the firewall on the passenger side. Each has an electrical connector and two vacume lines attatched to it. On each, only one of the vacume lines has suction.

On the transfer case, there is a diaphram with two vacume lines also. Again only one has suction.

On a possible related problem, the shift know is off. When its in in park, the shift lever shows it in reverse. It is always 1 off to the right.
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I have a 1998 ford f250 stuck in 4-lo.
This is the Expedition/Navigator forum. I think you want this one for a 98 F-250: 1997 - 2003 F150 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
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Need help with a similar issue.

I have a 1998 ford f250 stuck in 4-lo.

There are 2 (relays I think) on the firewall on the passenger side. Each has an electrical connector and two vacume lines attatched to it. On each, only one of the vacume lines has suction.

On the transfer case, there is a diaphram with two vacume lines also. Again only one has suction.

On a possible related problem, the shift know is off. When its in in park, the shift lever shows it in reverse. It is always 1 off to the right.
On my trucks you have to go to neutral and have your foot on the brake to engage or release 4WD low.
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