'57 f-100 overdrive mount question
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'57 f-100 overdrive mount question
I have a '59 F-100 that I believe has had installed a '57 f-100 3-speed Borg-Warner trannny/overdrive. (Unless I am mistaken!)
It has as shown in the pic: what seems to be a cast plate near the output shaft with two holes. I assume this to be for a cross member frame mount?
Or...?
I do not see this on pictures of other overdrives, should I build a support/mount system for this so to be attached to the frame?
It has as shown in the pic: what seems to be a cast plate near the output shaft with two holes. I assume this to be for a cross member frame mount?
Or...?
I do not see this on pictures of other overdrives, should I build a support/mount system for this so to be attached to the frame?
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Hello Yes that is an overdrive transmission.
The flattened flange you show in the picture is for bolting down the transmission to a cross member.
The round item to the upper left of the flange is the overdrive governor. Looks like this in real life:
Here's a pic of one from the other side. The barrel shaped object coming off the center is the Overdrive Solenoid
There are two other componenets as well: The overdrive kickdown switch which is either under your gas pedal or on the firewall behind the throttle linkage, and the Overdrive Relay, which liiks like a big horn relay, but has a fuse on the outside. It should be on the firewall.
The flattened flange you show in the picture is for bolting down the transmission to a cross member.
The round item to the upper left of the flange is the overdrive governor. Looks like this in real life:
Here's a pic of one from the other side. The barrel shaped object coming off the center is the Overdrive Solenoid
There are two other componenets as well: The overdrive kickdown switch which is either under your gas pedal or on the firewall behind the throttle linkage, and the Overdrive Relay, which liiks like a big horn relay, but has a fuse on the outside. It should be on the firewall.
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Wow, thank you folks so much!
Really cool info, and I will stop making the crossmember I started, and check to be sure it has the motor mounts you mentioned.
It just seemed to be hanging out pretty far from the bell housing, the overdrive and driveshaft weighing it all down, it just seems to need more support to my eyes.
Glad I asked this here!
Really cool info, and I will stop making the crossmember I started, and check to be sure it has the motor mounts you mentioned.
It just seemed to be hanging out pretty far from the bell housing, the overdrive and driveshaft weighing it all down, it just seems to need more support to my eyes.
Glad I asked this here!
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gotta ask ...can this kind of overdrive be setup be set behind a flathead ?in particular a 54 4X4..my truck howls on the highway..I would prefer to stay true to the year of the truck but..parts are hard to find so should I look at a late model overdrive rather then something like this??or are the old overdrive units solid and easy to find??
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the orig units were made by Warn ... but this page will show you a new unit built by saturn 1951 ****** CJ-3A Overdrive - Four Wheeler Magazine.. goes in the PTO plate on the back of the T case
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Wow, thank you folks so much!
Really cool info, and I will stop making the crossmember I started, and check to be sure it has the motor mounts you mentioned.
It just seemed to be hanging out pretty far from the bell housing, the overdrive and driveshaft weighing it all down, it just seems to need more support to my eyes.
Glad I asked this here!
Really cool info, and I will stop making the crossmember I started, and check to be sure it has the motor mounts you mentioned.
It just seemed to be hanging out pretty far from the bell housing, the overdrive and driveshaft weighing it all down, it just seems to need more support to my eyes.
Glad I asked this here!
First, this transmission is a bit longer than the standard three speed. Also there will be quite a bit more torquing on your drive train with the lower rpm to provide the same speeds.
If you have the room and it won't require major surgery, a cross brace, or pipe type brace attached to the flange and the frame would probably add stability, strength and lessen vibration.
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The weight if the overdrive transmission is not much different from the normal short tailshaft 3 speed used in the pickups. If you have the original 3 point engine mount (one front, two at bellhousing) adding a fourth mount can cause trouble. Especially if the fourth mount does not have enough compliance. I have seen things like that lead to transmission case cracks, and you do not want that on a relatively uncommon overdrive unit.
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