I am eagerly awaiting the Ecoboost as it seems a great compromise for us diesel owners who want "diesel-like" torque with cheaper fuel and better mileage. The thing that worries me is the parts cost. As the owner of a diesel I have been astounded by parts cost. Although with the testing and such the EB seems to be a quality motor, but, things do break. The EB utilizes diesel-like technology so I am wondering has anyone seen for example: what an injector costs? what a turbo costs? what a high pressure fuel pump costs? Obviously Ford has been able to reduce manufactuering costs significantly since the option is only $1500 for this engine, but will the parts be affordable. I can do my own wrenching and I'm not afraid of the newer style engines. But will I have to refinance the truck to fix it if it breaks?

 

...And what a valve adjustment costs? That's a shim over bucket engine (or something equivalent, DAMB), like a motorcycle engine, which requires periodic valve lash checks and adjustments. That valve adjustment is $600 on my motorcycle, and it can be more than double that on a VROD. An interesting thing about the VROD is that there are a lot of sub 10,000 mile bikes on the market. Owners get rid of them before having to incur the expense of that first valve clearance check/adjustment. Are we going to see lots of sub 100,000 mile 3.7L and 3.5L F150's on the market too?

 

Well, Ford's MSRP on the Taurus SHO's turbos isn't all that bad.

$871.70 for the right, $859.75 for the left, according to trademotion.com (ed the parts guy). His actually selling price is more like $620 each, which is pretty decent.

Can't find injectors though...

Interesting thing though, looking at maintenance interval info on the Ford fleet website for the Taurus with the 3.5L (same as the ecoboost motor, with DAMB (direct acting mechanical bucket) valve train, there is NO scheduled valve lash maintenance.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...les/Getymm.asp

Doesn't mean it won't have to be done, but...

 

I'm hoping no valve adjustment will be needed on the F150's either. Now of course, just because there is one prescribed doesn't mean you have to have it done. One of my friends has a 2004 Yamaha FJR1300 and he had the valve check done at 100,000 miles instead of 15,000 miles and none of the valves needed adjustment. I haven't been that lucky though.

 

Well, they'll be a lot cheaper and way more reliable since its not a International motor.

 

I read somewhere on here that the cab has to come off to do a turbo replacement. I'm all about doing the wrenching on my stuff too, but dang...

Brandon

 

They say that about a lot of things on the Superduty too, but it's possible without doing so.

What they are looking at is "book time". Taking the cab off, when you have the resources to do so, is quicker than the alternative

 

While that IS funny, it hits a little close to home. Looks like another 6.0 convert, Brad! (Juneau76)

 

Truth is I'm still up in the air about buying one of the EB or buying a 5.4L in a 10. While the Fuel mileage looks great, rock solid reliability would really be better. You can buy quite a bit of gas for $600 worth of turbo or the price difference between a 10 and an 11 for that matter. I suspect the injectors and HPFP will be pricey as well.

 

A reman turbo for my John Deere tractors is right at $1000 so that sounds like a bargain for the Ford turbos, especially if they are new not rebuilt

 

The only thing that would concern me on this engine would be the turbos. I can't imagine the fuel pump or an injector costing any more than it does for any other gas burner. The only injectors that I've ever had to replace were those on a 1990 Civic and that was ONLY because the car sat for four years and then was given to my daughter. The injectors were all gummed up.

Diesel like characteristics without diesel like costs and maintenance.

 

Ford has said turbos are good for 150k miles. An injector on a Powerstroke is over $1000 I believe, and that is just parts cost.

 

These are direct injected engines where the fuel in injected into the combustion chamber, not the intake manifold so I'm sure they will be a bit more than a standard injector.

 

Ford says the direct injected engines run a fuel pressure of 2150 lbs per square inch (35 times the pressure of a regular port injected engine). You had better believe the fuel pump and fuel lines, etc, will cost a bunch more.

George

 

I know on my Sky, they were indeed pricey items, but I don't remember the injectors being all that bad. If Ford is using a Bosch GDI system for their ecoboost motors, I would assume that they are the same solenoid initiated injectors. Nothing like the current Piezo crop that the diesels are running, but then they're running 10x higher pressure than a GDI motor. The High Pressure fuel pump will also be a pricey item. I know when the skies and solstii were being built, there were a few infantile deaths in regards to fuel pumps (which were cam driven on the LNF motors), but I would think that GDI has improved in the last 3 years or so.