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Old 11-28-2010, 04:12 PM
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V10 Rod Bearings going out

2004 V10 EX Limited 105K

Heard raddle. Drew Ford determined the rob bearings were going out. Said I need a new engine $8K. Can this be fixed outside of going to the dealer? I'm not a mechanic but if I find one I trust could they fix for cheaper? PLEASE HELP.....

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Ask around for a reputable mechanic. I know that sometimes that is a hard thing to find. But usually a non-ford Mechanic rates are a fair bit less than the Ford rates. The other option is to find a mechanic that will take a "take-out" V-10 from a wrecked truck and then drop that in. BUt you may find out that the labor charges will make it more cost effective to have your engine rebuilt than to have a used one installed. With the economy in San Diego, you should be able to find a mechanic that will give you a decent deal.
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You can always find a cheaper repair than the dealership. There is a reason they are referred to as the stealership.
 
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I am interested in what made the bearings fail? The only thing that comes to mind is low or no oil pressure from a mechanical problem or no oil in the crankcase. Are there any other wear related problems? Does it burn oil?

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That is my concern and my argument to Ford Corp. Oil pressure was fine, oil level was fine, no dash light indicators came on. One day the engine is great..... The next day I need a new one. Doesn't make any sense to me.
 
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If its only rod bearings you should be able to replace the rod and main bearings with the motor in the truck.
Remove oil pan
Slide the tranmssion back and transfer case if 4x4.
Remove crank from engine inspect journals, inspect rods, replace bearings gaskets and seals. If crank is good polish crank.
You just may get this done for about 800.00.

There is no need to replace an engine that just needs bearings.
 
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:19 AM
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I am interested in what made the bearings fail? The only thing that comes to mind is low or no oil pressure from a mechanical problem or no oil in the crankcase. Are there any other wear related problems? Does it burn oil?

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on my old s15 jimmy i use to have, my bearings went out due to coolant leaking into the oil. intake gasket was leaking. water doesnt make for a good lubricant!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by UrbanXX
If its only rod bearings you should be able to replace the rod and main bearings with the motor in the truck.
Remove oil pan
Slide the tranmssion back and transfer case if 4x4.
Remove crank from engine inspect journals, inspect rods, replace bearings gaskets and seals. If crank is good polish crank.
You just may get this done for about 800.00.

There is no need to replace an engine that just needs bearings.

Yea, but dude said he wasn't a mechanic.
 
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:29 PM
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I did them in my Toyota years ago, amazingly easy. You should be able to find a quality mechanic in your area that will just do the rods. It won't be any where near $8K either.

Just make sure he diagnoses the cause for the bearing failure too.

Good luck on a suckie situation
 
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Do an oil analysis and see what they say. You may have a contamination issue. Blackstone laboratories is a good place to get one done and it costs around $20. Rod bearings just don't fail. The rod bearings should be the last thing to go.

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Rod bearings just don't fail. The rod bearings should be the last thing to go.

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Agreed. I've NEVER seen any modular with bad rod bearings that wasn't abused by over-revving or ran low of oil.
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Originally Posted by UrbanXX
If its only rod bearings you should be able to replace the rod and main bearings with the motor in the truck.
Remove oil pan
Slide the tranmssion back and transfer case if 4x4.
Remove crank from engine inspect journals, inspect rods, replace bearings gaskets and seals. If crank is good polish crank.
You just may get this done for about 800.00.

There is no need to replace an engine that just needs bearings.
If rod bearings have indeed failed, you must grind the crank and install oversized bearings. Rod bearing clearances are thousandths of an inch, not something you will be able to spot without a micrometer. If the bearings were really gone, they can and will damage the connecting rods(when the crank bangs around in the connecting rod it can make the opening egg shaped).

OR

Are you a victim of a lazy tech.... the ones who hear a knock and say you need a new long block or feel a transmission slip and say you need a reman transmission.
 
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Sounds like oil was never changed, low oil pressure, hotrodding, water in the oil, overheating and prolong use, or the guy that diagnosed it was imagining things; probably the latter.
 
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Originally Posted by UrbanXX
If its only rod bearings you should be able to replace the rod and main bearings with the motor in the truck.
Remove oil pan
Slide the tranmssion back and transfer case if 4x4.
Remove crank from engine inspect journals, inspect rods, replace bearings gaskets and seals. If crank is good polish crank.
You just may get this done for about 800.00.

There is no need to replace an engine that just needs bearings.
problem is the v10 is sitting on cross brasing and the cross brasing is welded to frame rails and there is only 1/8 of a inch from the oil pan and the cross brasing not enough room to take oil pan down no way to get to oil pan unless your pulling engine out of truck especially in the 4x4 excursions there no room to pull oil pan because how close the cross brasing is to the pan itself
 
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Here I was hoping the OP came back for a final resolution. Have to give him time, it's only been 8 years.
 


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