THIS will fit in place of the air/smog pump on a 94 F150?

(Running a shorter belt without the pump does not work very well)

 

Yes it will , i use one on my 95 302...Lew

 

Sweet I thought it would, but didn't want to buy one, and find out the hard way it didnt fit.

 

Yeah & it will help the belt run better , i used the ford racing one but there both the same ....

 

Cool, I just ordered one

 

What is wrong with running the belt without the pump or eliminator bracket? I have an eliminator bracket, but I couldn't see any way to get it to fit. It bolted up under the alternator, but there was no other place to bolt it up so I just got a belt that fits without the bracket. It seems like it'll work just fine, just thought I'd ask.

 

Has anyone seen a dead pully for a 460? i have googled and only find them for the 302 and 351?

Mario

 

I also don't see why this won't work.

 

....Thats the way alot of guys do it , but if your truck is going to see high rpm i would recomend the pulley , it will keep the belt from flapping at high rpm , and help the belt run true , it mounts below the alt & tensioner to the bracket that the air pump was on....Lew

 

I guess the belt routing must be different on a 5.0 than the routing on a 5.8, because on the 5.8 the belt run between the alternator to the air conditioner compressor is longer by far than the run between the water pump & alternator, even without the smog pump or eliminator. I've owned a lot of F trucks over the years, but never had one w/ the 5.0.

I always wondered why people bothered with the eliminator pulleys, but that makes sense.

 

I guess the 5.8 must be routed different ?? , the 5.0 has an idler between the alt & ac , but thats the longest run , about 12 in....

 

Different years are routed different. I have my 94 5.0 brackets on my 351. The older 351s had a tentioner where the idler is on mine,(bewtween the alt, and AC). If you just run a shorter belt on the setup I have, the tentioner doesn't keep the belt tight. It ran fine for 3-400 miles, but now that the belt is stretched, it wants to jump a grove on the alt, or totally off the tentioner. And the next shorter belt will not fit on at all. I'll try to fund a pic of how mine is ran right now



Also, if you can't find a place to bolt the lower part of the pulley bracket, you are missing a "z" shaped piece of flat metal that goes between the. Timing cover and the old smog pump.

 

Yes, I misspoke forgot the tensioner, it's mounted on the alt. bracket, the long run is between the tensioner & a/c comp, but it's still longer than the run from w/pump to alt without the smog pump.

 

It doesn't go from the water pump to the alt.

Crank up past the tentioner, to the alt, down a bit to the idler, over the A/C, around the powersteering, than the waterpump back to the crank.

Or

Crank, to alternator, over to tentioner, than A/C, powersteering, waterpump back to crank. <--- if you have this setup, than you can reroute the belt from crank, waterpump, alt, tentioner, A/C, powersteering, back to crank. That's all without smog/or eliminator pulley. I'm sure that's what ur talking about.

 

Got it alll done. Have to us a belt that is 1.5 inches shorter than stock in my case.