Gremlins in the wipers
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Gremlins in the wipers
Has anyone experienced gremlins in the wipers on their Expedition? My '99 XLT/5.4L started experiencing wipers coming on for 1 or 2 swipes and then shutting off on bumps. Ford changed the multifunction switch; now the wipers and washer comes on occasionally when starting the engine (maybe once every 3 or 4 starts) and the only way to cancel the wipers and washers is to shut off the engine and restart! They replaced the wiper motor with no change. Ford says redesiged multi-function switch is coming soon....what a pain! I wired a fused 30 amp switch in place of the standard fuse so I can cancel the wipers without shutting down the engine.
Greg
Greg
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#3
Gremlins in the wipers
I found out through another dealer Explorers have been reporting this failry often and they have either the same or close GEM module. Here is a copy of the service bulletin.
Service Bulletin Number: 5705
Bulletin Sequence Number: 520
Date of Bulletin: 9903
NHTSA Item Number: SB605194
Make: FORD TRUCK
Model: EXPLORER
Year: 1999
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION:ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT
Summary: VEHICLE EXHIBITING MULTIPLE GENERIC ELECTRONIC MODULE (GEM) RELATED SYMPTOMS. *TT
Service Bulletin Number: 5705
Bulletin Sequence Number: 520
Date of Bulletin: 9903
NHTSA Item Number: SB605194
Make: FORD TRUCK
Model: EXPLORER
Year: 1999
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION:ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT
Summary: VEHICLE EXHIBITING MULTIPLE GENERIC ELECTRONIC MODULE (GEM) RELATED SYMPTOMS. *TT
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Gremlins in the wipers
I've talked with the Service Manager, as well as Ford Customer Service. This is a known problem, and the fix is a re-designed General Electronics Module, which is not yet available for installation. I've wired a fused switch in place of the wiper circuit in the fuse box, so I can at least turn the wipers off without shutting the engine off. If you do this, make sure you use a 30 amp rated switch, and a 30 amp inline fuse.
Good luck.
Greg
Good luck.
Greg
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Gremlins in the wipers
I own a 99 XLT 5.4 and have had the same problems with uncontrolable wipers. But It only happend while the truck is running. I also have rented Expidetion's on trips and had the same problem . Hope the Excursions get all their bugs out . Any one out there who has installed an after market exhaust on their XLT 5.4 please e-mail me with info horsepower ect.
Thanks j
Thanks j
#7
Gremlins in the wipers
>Has anyone experienced gremlins in the wipers
>on their Expedition? My '99
>XLT/5.4L started experiencing wipers coming on
>for 1 or 2 swipes and
>then shutting off on bumps.
>Ford changed the multifunction switch; now
>the wipers and washer comes on
>occasionally when starting the engine (maybe
>once every 3 or 4 starts)
>and the only way to cancel
>the wipers and washers is to
>shut off the engine and restart!
> They replaced the wiper motor
>with no change. Ford says
>redesiged multi-function switch is coming soon....what
>a pain! I wired a
>fused 30 amp switch in place
>of the standard fuse so I
>can cancel the wipers without shutting
>down the engine. Greg
Ford finally released a re-designed multifunction switch to fix this problem. I've got the new switch and (so far) no more gremlins!
Greg
>on their Expedition? My '99
>XLT/5.4L started experiencing wipers coming on
>for 1 or 2 swipes and
>then shutting off on bumps.
>Ford changed the multifunction switch; now
>the wipers and washer comes on
>occasionally when starting the engine (maybe
>once every 3 or 4 starts)
>and the only way to cancel
>the wipers and washers is to
>shut off the engine and restart!
> They replaced the wiper motor
>with no change. Ford says
>redesiged multi-function switch is coming soon....what
>a pain! I wired a
>fused 30 amp switch in place
>of the standard fuse so I
>can cancel the wipers without shutting
>down the engine. Greg
Ford finally released a re-designed multifunction switch to fix this problem. I've got the new switch and (so far) no more gremlins!
Greg
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Gremlins in the wipers
One more oh-by-the-way; since my wipers were coming on on a dry windshield it scratched the coating on the glass. I had my dealer replace the windshield at no-cost to me since it was a direct result of the problem with the GEM and wipers. After FINALLY getting the GEM they were happy to get my Expy out of the shop!
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#13
Gremlins in the wipers
i have two problems...rear wiper will go down into the cradle all by itself when supposed to be running...dealer can't find problem.................second is that i have 4 or 5 arcs on the front window that the wipers only clean when they are new.. once wipers are worn a little they leave these arcs about an 1" wide of unwiped windshield.....almost as if there is something on glass or something worn off in those spots.any clues
#14
Gremlins in the wipers
I'm beginning to believe the wiper blades on ALL the newer vehicles are total junk. My '97 Expy blades were crap - after a month or so they wouldn't clean the whole windshield - left streaks somewhere along their length, like a 2" streak in the middle, etc. In the winter they seem to collect ice and then won't flex (as I read what I just wrote now I wonder if it's the wiper heads, not the blades?)... Anyway, my 99 Expy wipers behave the same way so I guess I'll spring for new wiper heads and see if we get any improvement. My wife's 99 DUHrango wipers perform just as poorly.
#15
Gremlins in the wipers
On a related topic, is there any way to change the behavior of the wipers when using the washer. I just love it when I push the washer button and the wipers scrape across the salt/sand covered windshield a few times before the water starts spraying!
I asked my Ford dealer and he didn't know.
Mark
I asked my Ford dealer and he didn't know.
Mark