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#61
Ok guys, help me out here! First year with a diesel and I travel the country. When am I gonna have to plug this thing in (30,25,20 and lower)and am I gonna have to carry a couple hundred feet of extention cord to get from the hotel room to the van? Oh, might have to fix the plug too....rat ate through it (just remembered that one). What types of additives do I need to keep from gelling and what not, the blends that are going to be mixed in that tank are gonna be really different. Should I avoid certain areas (big cities, certain states) when I fill up. What needs to be kept in the "stays in van" box in back?
#62
I'll have to check how old the batteries really are, and spend my next paycheck on new batteries. The cables do not look promising either, at least the driver-side terminal looks quite bad - think I'll just replace it tomorrow as a temporary measure. Pricing things out from AutoZone it's $100 per battery and $110 for the positive cable Anyone think 2/0 will be good enough?
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Ok guys, help me out here! First year with a diesel and I travel the country. When am I gonna have to plug this thing in (30,25,20 and lower)and am I gonna have to carry a couple hundred feet of extention cord to get from the hotel room to the van? Oh, might have to fix the plug too....rat ate through it (just remembered that one). What types of additives do I need to keep from gelling and what not, the blends that are going to be mixed in that tank are gonna be really different. Should I avoid certain areas (big cities, certain states) when I fill up. What needs to be kept in the "stays in van" box in back?
I did just change the coolant, oil, filter, fuel filter, return lines (need to fix the fuel heater o-rings), fresh tires, spare is up on air and good, jumper cables are there, I'll always have the tools, huge plug in light and flash light, blankets, (maybe some sand/kitty litter), tow strap, 12 ga, someone to push if I get stuck somewhere?
First run this month is texas for two weeks, then home for a few days here in tennessee and up to detroit for a week, cleveland mid december and bidding on some jobs in the north east to finish the year.
I did just change the coolant, oil, filter, fuel filter, return lines (need to fix the fuel heater o-rings), fresh tires, spare is up on air and good, jumper cables are there, I'll always have the tools, huge plug in light and flash light, blankets, (maybe some sand/kitty litter), tow strap, 12 ga, someone to push if I get stuck somewhere?
First run this month is texas for two weeks, then home for a few days here in tennessee and up to detroit for a week, cleveland mid december and bidding on some jobs in the north east to finish the year.
as far as an extension cord goes, 50 miles long should do the trick.
but really, if your batteries are good and the glow plug circuit is working properly, you should have no problems cold starting at -15 F. just let it warm up before driving at those temps.
#65
The stroke needs to be opened up and retorqued too... I guess they're referred to as " Valve lever post bolts" on the IDI and are torqued to 20 lbs-ft.
I'm jealous too. It's my folks shop and I have to drive 50 miles to use it.
Ooh. Heated shop. Fancy. I am jealous. And yes, get the small torque wrench. I rented one that was large and I was way too far away from those bolts when I was retorquing them. Not to mention they are not large bolts so I was using reducers and deep sockets. Ended up slipping and smashing my thumb pretty good. I can still see the black spot under my fingernail ha. Anyways, good luck for when you do the swap. The floor being cold wont be a problem for that job.
#66
I think what youa are talking about are the "rocker pedistal bolts" I retorqued these when I was in there doing my glow plugs and it did smooth out and quiet down the idle a little.
#67
fuel additive is nothing more than Diesel Kleen. add some every other tank or so and you will be fine.
as far as an extension cord goes, 50 miles long should do the trick.
but really, if your batteries are good and the glow plug circuit is working properly, you should have no problems cold starting at -15 F. just let it warm up before driving at those temps.
as far as an extension cord goes, 50 miles long should do the trick.
but really, if your batteries are good and the glow plug circuit is working properly, you should have no problems cold starting at -15 F. just let it warm up before driving at those temps.
#69
Both positive or negative terminals are shot, Joel? Usually it's the positive ones tat corrode bad. You can do like was suggested in that case, at least on the driver-side - cut old terminal off, strip some of the insulation, and bolt a new terminal on. The passenger side one will be tricky tho...
#70
You should have seen the engine compartment when we picked up these vans in texas, there were texas sized "mice" living in there and it looked like they survived on nothing but ford parts for 3 years while it sat....waiting for me! The batteries were toast (texas toast?) and right now the terminal connections have actually broken from me trying to tighten them. The negitive on drivers side is good but the other three need terminals. Something to think about doing, quickly I guess! I have plenty of slack on both sides due to having to reroute wires to make them work when I picked it up. Nice van though, for $760 (till you add in the $2000 tranny) but still worth it I think. 185,000 miles and it's replacing my 89 nissan hardbody truck with just under 600,000 (I can't kill it but the van was origially cheaper than fixing the a/c and putting cruise in the nissan and the fuel mileage is almost the same)
#71
Joel,
As you travel northern states, the fuel should be blended for the average low temps in that area.
Where you run into problems is when you have fuel from a southern area, higher average low temp, and then travel to a much colder area.
Time to add fuel anti gel treatment.
The other thing that can get you, say the average low temp for the area you are in is 10 degrees.
A frigid arctic front moves in with temps running in the -15 range.
Now you fuel is blended for temps 25 degrees warmer that what you are seeing and you are probably looking at trouble.
A spare fuel filter or two, a gallon or so of Diesel Kleen to refill the new filters when you have to change one, a fuel filter wrench and a couple bottles of Diesel 911 for when you get stuck with gelled fuel in the tank make a good travel kit as far as the fuel system goes.
Buy questionable fuel, add Diesel Kleen to the tank then, not after you have trouble.
Gelled fuel is one of those things that is much cheaper and easier to handle before it happens.
Once you have a slug of paraffin stopping up a fuel line, even the 911 is going to have a hard time getting you running again without a warm place to melt the paraffin so it can diffuse back into the fuel.
Best test for glow plugs, ohm meter.
One lead on the nut, one lead on the electrical connector of the plug, wires removed.
Optimum resistance .5 to 1 ohm.
Takes a decent meter to test resistance that close to a dead short.
Resistance over 1 ohm, less heat produced while the plug is on and the controller will shorten the glow cycle since it thinks the glow plug is already hotter than it really is.
Information here, .5 ohms makes 200 watts of heat and draws 20 amps per glow plug at 10 volts at the plug.
By the time the resistance increases to 1 ohm, the heat drops to 100 watts and the amp draw also drops to 10 amps with the same 10 volt current to the plug.
As for the block heater, if you have a 1500 watt heater, a 50 foot cord should be 12 AWG wires minimum.
A 100 foot cord should be 8 AWG wires minimum.
You can replace the glow plugs with 20 dollar each glow plugs for less money than the 8 AWG 100 foot cord will cost.
As you travel northern states, the fuel should be blended for the average low temps in that area.
Where you run into problems is when you have fuel from a southern area, higher average low temp, and then travel to a much colder area.
Time to add fuel anti gel treatment.
The other thing that can get you, say the average low temp for the area you are in is 10 degrees.
A frigid arctic front moves in with temps running in the -15 range.
Now you fuel is blended for temps 25 degrees warmer that what you are seeing and you are probably looking at trouble.
A spare fuel filter or two, a gallon or so of Diesel Kleen to refill the new filters when you have to change one, a fuel filter wrench and a couple bottles of Diesel 911 for when you get stuck with gelled fuel in the tank make a good travel kit as far as the fuel system goes.
Buy questionable fuel, add Diesel Kleen to the tank then, not after you have trouble.
Gelled fuel is one of those things that is much cheaper and easier to handle before it happens.
Once you have a slug of paraffin stopping up a fuel line, even the 911 is going to have a hard time getting you running again without a warm place to melt the paraffin so it can diffuse back into the fuel.
Best test for glow plugs, ohm meter.
One lead on the nut, one lead on the electrical connector of the plug, wires removed.
Optimum resistance .5 to 1 ohm.
Takes a decent meter to test resistance that close to a dead short.
Resistance over 1 ohm, less heat produced while the plug is on and the controller will shorten the glow cycle since it thinks the glow plug is already hotter than it really is.
Information here, .5 ohms makes 200 watts of heat and draws 20 amps per glow plug at 10 volts at the plug.
By the time the resistance increases to 1 ohm, the heat drops to 100 watts and the amp draw also drops to 10 amps with the same 10 volt current to the plug.
As for the block heater, if you have a 1500 watt heater, a 50 foot cord should be 12 AWG wires minimum.
A 100 foot cord should be 8 AWG wires minimum.
You can replace the glow plugs with 20 dollar each glow plugs for less money than the 8 AWG 100 foot cord will cost.
#72
As for running the rears singled out, same thing as running adapters to run duals on a SRW axle, except the offset is the other direction.
We had snow here today, nothing layed on the ground here, but they had a couple inches up in the mountains east of here, so no it is not going to be long.
We had snow here today, nothing layed on the ground here, but they had a couple inches up in the mountains east of here, so no it is not going to be long.
#73
Well, those who have converted to a dually setup by just adding spacers to their SRW hubs can probably get away with just running the inboard wheels, as because of the spacer the tire will sit right about where the factory SRW tire used to sit (halfway between the two hub bearings). For factory DRW axles tho, I think just running SRW wheels on those would be a better choice.
#74
2wd diesel, dually full ton long bed crew cab. floor it around a turn on fresh soft snow and it barely slides out I ran lighter weight oil last year. this year my baby is getting parked bought a beeter for $900 with 33" snow tires 4x4. should be fun, also f150. anyone throw some weight in the bed? will be carying a colapsable camp shovel since im going to school in the bottom of the snow belt with lake effect
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