Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #31  
Old 11-02-2010, 11:03 PM
eric f150 eric f150 is offline
Freshman User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Grand Valley, On
Posts: 37
eric f150 is starting off with a positive reputation.
start with the cheap stuff, i dont know the condition of your truck and how you take care of it, but i did some small stuff and took my 92 5L from around 9 to 21mpg


-clean your throttle body
-set your tps (more of an idle thing but an easy adjustment)
-clean your IAT intake air temp sensor in some good carb cleaner and make sure not to disturb the filament, and check for proper operation!!!
-check coolant temp sensor
-combustion chamber cleaner
-air intake, or at least a good clean filter
-less restrictive exhaust
-make sure there are no vacuum leaks
-replace o2 sensor
-tire pressures
-electric fans
-gearing and tires

if you could get your hands on a scanner it would help you out alot just buy watching the data stream and seeing if the sensors are doing wat there supposed to and reading the proper values
and if you want really good mileage buy a focus...lol
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 11-03-2010, 12:07 AM
bnmc98's Avatar
bnmc98 bnmc98 is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 79
bnmc98 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Not a real economy rig, but, I get 14mpg in my 92. Its 2wd e4od 4.10 gears and 235/85/16s.

get my best milage about 70mph. I get 12 with a 2200# trailer, 10 with a 6000# trailer.

My mods are nothing special:
FRPP timing gear set - straight up same as stock so its really not a mod
intake air horns cut out
K&N filter
Ign. Timing set at 13 btdc - I run 89 octane
Taylor brass terminal cap and rotor
FRPP wires
NGK V-power plugs
Stock cat with 3" single exhaust
thats it...
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 11-03-2010, 03:27 AM
polarismuddman's Avatar
polarismuddman polarismuddman is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central, Florida
Posts: 399
polarismuddman is starting off with a positive reputation.
I disagree with larger injectors doing anything for fuel economy. I also seriously doubt he'll want to get into aftermarket fueling and tuning options...how many people actually want to learn binary editing? Leave those 3 things for the track.....
__________________
Junior

"Yea, I'm an oilburner....what of it?"
1989 F250 7.3 IDI, ZF 5-speed,4wd, worn out pump turned up a few flats, timing advanced, PowerKing tires, Group 31 batteries.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 11-03-2010, 11:03 AM
Old FORD Tech Old FORD Tech is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: East of Mt. Hood
Posts: 17
Old FORD Tech is starting off with a positive reputation.
Who makes a good cat back system? Will test the computer system to make sure the sensors are in specs.

Thanks for the good tips-- like taking gas out of the neighbors truck. I'll make sure to yell "don't shoot!" if caught.

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 11-03-2010, 12:27 PM
jonbar87's Avatar
jonbar87 jonbar87 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 357
jonbar87 is starting off with a positive reputation.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jonathan-barnes/56/718/6a4
Quote:
Originally Posted by cj06 View Post
.....put new injectors that are 1-2 sizes bigger in .
HORRIBLE idea. Don't know what this guy is thinking. Don't EVER just throw some "1 - 2 sizes bigger" injectors in. A SD computer is programmed to keep each injector opened for very specific amount of time (in milliseconds) at any given load/rpm cell. For example, at idle the stock 24lb fuel injectors use a pulse width between 4.9 and 5.1 milliseconds. If you threw some 48lb or even 72lb injectors in while the computer is still using the exact same pulse width, you'd literally choke your engine out from it being so rich! This guy has clearly never tuned an EFI engine....not to mention, a lean a/f ratio...(to an extent) will always make MORE power than a rich AFR. Adding gas doesn't automatically give you more power.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 11-03-2010, 12:36 PM
cj06's Avatar
cj06 cj06 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CASA GRANDE AZ
Posts: 2,007
cj06 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
there always is more than just putting stuff on any engine and expecting it to work properly . and yes i have tuned EFI engines
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 11-03-2010, 12:37 PM
jonbar87's Avatar
jonbar87 jonbar87 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 357
jonbar87 is starting off with a positive reputation.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jonathan-barnes/56/718/6a4
Quote:
Originally Posted by cj06 View Post
there always is more than just putting stuff on any engine and expecting it to work properly . and yes i have tuned EFI engines

Than don't give false impressions. What systems have you tuned with? What software have you used?
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 11-03-2010, 04:03 PM
termyt00's Avatar
termyt00 termyt00 is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Close to Mr. Anderson
Posts: 652
termyt00 is starting off with a positive reputation.
well, a set of '69 429 heads! cam advance, say 2-4 degrees, and 93 octane!!! is a good start!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 11-03-2010, 06:48 PM
mdula's Avatar
mdula mdula is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 505
mdula is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by termyt00 View Post
well, a set of '69 429 heads! cam advance, say 2-4 degrees, and 93 octane!!! is a good start!
Except you couldnt run EFI at all anymore with C9VE heads....And a carb swap dithcing the electronics and finding out his transmission wont work untill he gets a standalone controller for it is probably not what hes after.

Im not pickin on you termy, but there sure seems to be alot of misinformation on this board, at least information that has no solid data to back it up. Some guys just throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks....I dunno I hate to rant but I spend alot of time on other ford forums (classic car ones and 460 forums) and people usually get reamed for throwing out crap advice with no backing what-so-ever. For good reason. People on here want advice, and just might go do it! SD is a whole differnt animal than MAF systems are, its not adaptive so you cant just thow big injectors in it, there is no sense behind it, other that tricking the engine to dump way more fuel than it wants, puffing black smoke, loosing power, fowling plugs, and watching your mileage go to about 6.

If you dont know the answer or have no evidence / real-worl experience, dont post! As a side note there are some very knowledgable guys (jonbar) on here that are darn near genius when it comes to our trucks, they have actually been there, done that. Lets not ruin the rep of the boards by posting CRAP info...That way the peson who is looking for help will get anwers that might actually help him out.

Jeezus
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 11-03-2010, 06:51 PM
Diesel_Brad's Avatar
Diesel_Brad Diesel_Brad is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Gilbert, PA
Posts: 13,618
Diesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdula View Post
Except you couldnt run EFI at all anymore with C9VE heads....And a carb swap is probably not what hes after.

Im not pickin on you termy, but there sure seems to be alot of misinformation on this board, at least information that has no solid data to back it up. Some guys just throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks....I dunno I hate to rant but I spend alot of time on other ford forums (classic car ones and 460 forums) and people usually get reamed for throwing it crap advice with no backing what-so-ever. For good reason. People on here want advice, and just might go do it! SD is a whole differnt animal than MAF systems are, its not adaptive so you cant just thow big injectors in it, there is no sense behind it, other that tricking the engine to dump way more fuel than it wants, puffing black smoke, loosing power, fowling plugs, and watching your mileage go to about 6.

If you dont know the answer or have no evidence / real-worl experience, dont post! As a side note there are some very knowledgable guys (jonbar) on here that are darn near genius when it comes to our trucks, they have actually been there, donr that. Lets not ruin the rep of the boards by posting CRAP info...That way the peson who is looking for help will get anwers that might actually help him out.

Jeezus
But i love it! Could'nt have sid it better my self
__________________
Looking for Blue 40-20-40 seats. PM me !!!
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 11-03-2010, 07:37 PM
polarismuddman's Avatar
polarismuddman polarismuddman is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central, Florida
Posts: 399
polarismuddman is starting off with a positive reputation.
I agree with Brad...holy crap did I just say that?! LOL.......I was trying to be nice with my previous post.....but that is what I wanted to say....

Also, what part of larger injectors and binary editing is CHEAP? The OP is prepared to spend SOME coin on obtaining better fuel mileage.....but not THAT much. Like i said before...LEAVE THOSE 3 THINGS FOR THE TRACK!!!!!!
__________________
Junior

"Yea, I'm an oilburner....what of it?"
1989 F250 7.3 IDI, ZF 5-speed,4wd, worn out pump turned up a few flats, timing advanced, PowerKing tires, Group 31 batteries.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 11-03-2010, 07:54 PM
termyt00's Avatar
termyt00 termyt00 is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Close to Mr. Anderson
Posts: 652
termyt00 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Who told you "You can't run stock SD with C9 heads"??? and a factory camshaft....
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 11-03-2010, 07:56 PM
DIYiT's Avatar
DIYiT DIYiT is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,211
DIYiT has a good reputation on FTE.DIYiT has a good reputation on FTE.
What uses does your truck need to fulfill? If you don't need offroad tires, buy a set of nice highway, all-season tires which are stock width (or maybe even one size skinnier). It will present a lot less rolling resistance than wide all-terrains will.

Do not use a tonneau cover, do leave your tailgate up, and try to keep the bed as empty as possible. The shape of the cab & tailgate creates a low pressure pocket of air which stays in place pretty well and helps the air move over the truck more smoothly rather than crashing down behind the cab and into the tailgate.

While I'm a fan of lifted trucks, it definitely works against you for MPG. If you like the look of a lowered truck, lowering it will help reduce the front cross sectional area of the truck which will reduce wind drag (along with the lower valance I mentioned earlier which will help direct air around the truck rather than under it).
__________________
2013 F150 FX4, Ecoboost, 3.55 SCrew 5.5

1995 F-250 - Vortech 460, E40D - 4x4 3.55, Single Cab, Long Box
DIYiT's F-250 Build Thread
--Dana 60 Swap --Vortech Install
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 11-03-2010, 07:59 PM
DIYiT's Avatar
DIYiT DIYiT is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,211
DIYiT has a good reputation on FTE.DIYiT has a good reputation on FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by termyt00 View Post
Who told you "You can't run stock SD with C9 heads"??? and a factory camshaft....
Well mating the EFI intake (which has injector bungs) to the C9 heads won't work and adding injectors to a carb intake also won't be the easiest.
__________________
2013 F150 FX4, Ecoboost, 3.55 SCrew 5.5

1995 F-250 - Vortech 460, E40D - 4x4 3.55, Single Cab, Long Box
DIYiT's F-250 Build Thread
--Dana 60 Swap --Vortech Install
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 11-03-2010, 08:15 PM
mdula's Avatar
mdula mdula is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 505
mdula is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by termyt00 View Post
Who told you "You can't run stock SD with C9 heads"??? and a factory camshaft....
If your referring to my post. I said it probably isnt in his best interest for aquiring beter MPG requiring the large amount of custom work that would need to be done to get a STOCK SD system to work on C9 heads. And I didn't say anyting about the camshaft. But can you just bolt on c9 heads and go with stock sd efi? No. You Cant.
Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2010, 08:15 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Older, Classic & Antique Trucks > 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks

Tags
460, big, block, cam, eeciv, engine, ford, improve, kurt, management, milage, mileage, mpg, set, zortman

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New to the V10 Forum Dave0629 Modular V10 (6.8l) 10 10-24-2012 11:09 PM
V10 Towing and Tuners Dave0629 Towing, Trailers & 5th Wheels 8 10-23-2012 07:12 AM
88 f250 devswn 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 3 07-26-2012 10:13 PM
Diesel Fuel Mileage? Dave85zxt 1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel 9 01-15-2003 05:57 AM
460 mileage improvement? swampystumps Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460) 4 03-03-2002 09:12 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup